--- title: Senate Children and Families Committee, January 27, 2026 collection: meetings id: 2026-01-27/senate-children-and-families cite_as: Senate Children and Families Committee, January 27, 2026, video https://vimeo.com/1158952941 (machine transcript by Georgia Commons) canonical_url: https://georgiacommons.org/meetings/2026-01-27/senate-children-and-families md_url: https://georgiacommons.org/meetings/2026-01-27/senate-children-and-families.md text_url: https://georgiacommons.org/meetings/2026-01-27/senate-children-and-families/text source_url: https://vimeo.com/1158952941 date: 2026-01-27 status: machine transcript corpus_version: meetings-2026-10-23-8c15ead0f18d license: Machine transcript and summaries by Georgia Commons from the General Assembly's public video; the video stays on the General Assembly's Vimeo channel; see about.md publisher: Georgia Commons, an independent project of Georgia Civic Data. Not the State of Georgia. 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Video, on the General Assembly's Vimeo channel: https://vimeo.com/1158952941. Agenda: https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/document/agendas/senate/CFAgenda1.27.26.pdf. > This is a machine transcript of the General Assembly's video, made by a speech-recognition model. It is not an official record and can mishear words, names, and numbers. Speakers are not identified. The video is the record: every timestamp links to the moment it plays. ## Summary written by Georgia Commons Written by gpt-6.1-sol from the transcript below. It is not part of the record. Quote the transcript or the video, not the summary. The committee considered and approved two bills. [SB 402](https://georgiacommons.org/bills/2025-2026/sb402) would expand an autism screening and evaluation pilot for children in foster care. Members amended it to require annual reports beginning July 1, 2027, and to clarify that the law would be repealed after the final report, rather than an earlier annual report. The committee revisited its initial approval to make those changes, then approved the amended bill. [SB 383](https://georgiacommons.org/bills/2025-2026/sb383) would update child fatality review procedures, membership recommendations, terminology and reporting deadlines. The committee approved it unanimously. ## Bills discussed (2) Each account was written by gpt-6.1-sol from the stretch of the transcript it names. The bill's number is said in that stretch, unless it was the only bill on a committee's agenda. ### SB 402. Children and Youth; pilot program provision for screenings, clinical evaluations, training for autism spectrum disorder to children in foster care; establish [SB 402](https://georgiacommons.org/bills/2025-2026/sb402) (2025-2026 Regular Session). From [0:03:29](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=209s), turns 3 to 277. The sponsor said [SB 402](https://georgiacommons.org/bills/2025-2026/sb402) would expand a foster-care autism pilot from Region 12 to three additional regions, subject to funding, with eventual statewide expansion. The sponsor estimated a cost of $451,000 per region and said the original pilot found autism six times more common among foster children. A pediatrician involved in the pilot said diagnosis and treatment could reduce behaviors that disrupt placements, improve stability and reduce costs. An Autism Speaks advocate supported expansion, citing an original study population of 609 children, a 51.6% positive screening rate and a later diagnosis figure of 17.4%. A witness representing Apollo Behavior Services and Autism Providers of Georgia supported the bill, citing improved access and avoided costs. Asked how regions would be selected, the sponsor said the department would work with providers and consider service availability. A member questioned whether mandatory expansion language could jeopardize existing services without additional funding. The sponsor said funding conditions controlled expansion. Members also questioned waiting until 2031 for a report. The committee adopted annual reporting beginning July 1, 2027. After initially approving the bill, members rescinded approval to clarify that repeal would follow the final report, not an annual report, and readopted the reporting amendment. The committee then approved the amended bill; no vote count was stated. ### SB 383. Child Abuse; local child fatality review committees; modify the review [SB 383](https://georgiacommons.org/bills/2025-2026/sb383) (2025-2026 Regular Session). From [0:32:51](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1971s), turns 166 to 198. The sponsor described [SB 383](https://georgiacommons.org/bills/2025-2026/sb383) as a Georgia Bureau of Investigation agency bill updating child fatality review law. The sponsor said it would clarify the roles of review committees, medical examiners and coroners, update terminology and establish more practical reporting deadlines. A GBI representative said the bill would add hospital and school-system representatives to suggested local committee membership, require an agency representative to attend annual training, update descriptions of sudden infant deaths and remove references to an outdated reporting form. The representative said existing deadlines could leave complex investigations out of annual data because testing and record reviews were unfinished. The sponsor said the preliminary report deadline would change from 48 hours to seven days. Asked whether longer deadlines would delay families receiving a child's body or death certificate, the GBI representative said they would not, explaining that the changes concerned review reporting rather than those processes. The committee approved the bill unanimously. ## Transcript (278 turns) [0:01:34](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=94s) Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Children and Families Committee's first meeting. I wanna introduce you to Daley Kennedy, she's my new assistant, and Carly Daniel over there, she's, uh, the intern for the committee. And then we have lots of great staff here from Senate Press, Senate Legislative Council, and the Office of Policy and Legislative Analysis. So, thanks to everybody for being here. Um, before we start, I'm gonna ask Senator Payne to open us with a devotion. [0:02:05](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=125s) Thank you. If you would just, let us pray. Dear heavenly Father, we thank you, Lord, for so many things and, uh, all things that you give to us li- freely. Lord, we thank you for this time together that we get to work to better the conditions for children and families across our state. Lord, we just ask you to lead us and guide us in all things that we do, that all things that may be accomplished will be accomplished as part of your glory. Lord, in Jesus' name we pray, amen. [0:02:32](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=152s) Thank you, Senator. Um, for those who don't know, we had a study committee this summer on kids aging out of foster care, and the very specific issues that they face. And we came up with a number of recommendations from that study committee, and I just wanted to let y'all know that some of them are legislative and some of them are more convening the right people. And all of those are moving forward at this time. The one that involved a meeting with the Department of Housing and Urban Development was delayed by the government shutdown, and then it was delayed again last week because of the, uh, concerns about travel and the weather from one of our people who was attending from the West Coast. [0:03:16](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=196s) So, um, stay tuned. We'll be rolling out some exciting information that should help our kids in the foster care system. One of the first things that we're gonna do is, uh, we're gonna start with Senate Bill 402 today, and that is because one of our people who's testifying is a physician who's seeing patients, and she's making a window in her schedule. So Senator Tillery, would you come up and talk to us about Senate Bill 402? [0:03:48](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=228s) Thank you, Madam Chair, and also I wanna echo the, the praise of your staff. Kennedy's been awesome to work with already, so thank you for your help as we've worked even today to get this thing going. Do you want Dr. Zina to go first since she's got to see patients, or you want me to introduce it first? What would be your, your preference? [0:04:02](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=242s) Um, I think she's good for the next- [0:04:04](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=244s) Okay [0:04:04](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=244s) ... 20 minutes or so. [0:04:06](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=246s) Sure. [0:04:06](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=246s) So if you wanna walk us through the bill, and then she can- [0:04:08](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=248s) So you don't want me to read every word? [0:04:10](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=250s) Um, suit yourself. [0:04:14](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=254s) To amend chapter five... I'm just kidding, Madam Chair. Um, this, this bill, uh, does not do away with the income tax on children or anything like that. It's just a strange bill that deals with children and family, and it's a, it's a continuation of a pilot program that we started last year. Um, two years ago, rather. What we noticed was that we thought anecdotally that there was a, um, tie between children in our foster care system and autism. And what we actually noticed is that by running this pilot in Region 12, there's 14 regions in total, that children in our foster care system were six times more likely to have autism. [0:04:50](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=290s) And now you end up with a chicken or an egg question, right? Is it, are they in au- are they in foster care because they had autism, and that was why they had the issues with the family, they weren't getting the services that they needed? That's what we kinda think is the answer. So we wanna expand that pilot now to three more regions, and that's what Senate Bill 402 does. This pilot program was ran with Dr. Zina, who you have on the screen visiting you virtually from her office in Statesboro. What 402 allows is the pilot program that was ran in Se- in, uh, District 12 to be replicated in three other districts. [0:05:21](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=321s) As appropriations allows, it costs about $451,000 per district to run this pilot in that area. And then, uh, with the goal of going to all 14 regions o- over a series of years. That's all Senate Bill 402 does, helps us to see if we can see that this correlation is more than just in one region, and then begin addressing it, uh, with services that we hope helps us reduce the number of children we see in state custody. [0:05:49](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=349s) Thank you, and there may be some questions, but I'd like to let Dr. Zina jump on and, uh, speak to the bill and her experience so that she can get back to work. Can you hear me, Dr. Zina? [0:06:04](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=364s) Yes, ma'am. I am. [0:06:05](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=365s) Okay. Floor is yours. [0:06:08](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=368s) Thank you. [0:06:08](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=368s) Thank you. [0:06:08](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=368s) And I appreciate the opportunity to testify vi- by Zoom, and so to all the patients whose appointments did not have to be rescheduled. So, um, for those who don't know, I'm a ped- pediatrician whose practice focuses on autism spectrum disorder, complex ADHD, and anxiety disorders. And while my practice is located in Bulloch County, we see children from over 80 counties. And our catchment area is really evidence of the enormous need for more physicians to diagnose autism and accept Medicaid, and that's especially true for children in foster care. We sometimes see foster children who, for their in-person visit, are traveling six or more hours by car to get to us. [0:06:46](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=406s) Um, so foster children with undiagnosed autism are much more likely to have frequent changes in their placement, and they're more likely to have exasperating behaviors and more likely to be labeled defiant. Children with autism a lot of times struggle with inflexible thinking, and it can be misinterpreted as defiance. Um, but defiance is a choice, and a child with autism who refuses to eat ice cream because there's only a fork available still wants the ice cream. [0:07:16](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=436s) They just can't eat it with anything other than a spoon because they're so inflexible. And once caregivers really understand this difference, life gets much easier for the child and the caregiver. Um, just last week one of my patients got suspended for chewing gum in class. His teacher said, "Spit that gum out [0:07:35](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=455s) And he did, and then he put more gum in his mouth. And his mom, actually he was adopted from foster care, um, knew that he would've complied if the teacher had just said, "Spit that gum out. Gum is not allowed." But he's so literal that the ru- the implied rule wasn't clear to him. And, um, many teenagers and adults with autism spectrum disorder tell me that they were always in trouble as kids, but they rarely knew what they did wrong, and they learned not to ask because they usually got in more trouble because they were supposed to know. [0:08:09](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=489s) And if nobody understands what your skills deficits are, how can they impro- help you improve those deficits? Um, when kids get access to appropriate services, their long-term outcomes really improve. And when they get appropriate treatment, the problem be- behaviors that disrupt placements and result in foster kids moving to a new home or to a group home or ending up in a hotel also dramatically decrease. Um, so decreasing problem behaviors and improving stability both save money, reduce stress for the child, but also for the case manager and the foster parents. [0:08:46](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=526s) And this bill is going to allow us to expand and figure out more of the logistics of what do we need to do, um, with the goal of ultimately screening all foster kids for autism statewide. [0:09:03](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=543s) I'm happy to answer any questions. [0:09:07](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=547s) Questions from the committee for Dr. Zena? [0:09:12](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=552s) Thank you so much for the work that you do. If you could hang in there in case anybody thinks of anything for a few minutes, that'd be great. And then, um, questions for Senator Tillery, Chairman Tillery. I have one. Um, actually I have two. One is, um, if you don't mind, I know that you're very involved with the foster care system, and I wondered if you could speak about that briefly. [0:09:41](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=581s) Um, yes, ma'am, uh, Madam Chair, it's not a secret I don't think to this body that my wife and I, um, have foster children, and it's honestly because her heart's a heck of a lot bigger than mine, and she's just an awesome lady. Um, and so those are kids in our home. Um, we've had issues in the past with some things concerning Medicaid payments, and, uh, we've had children that may be at our house for a weekend who, um... Yeah, let me tell you one of the saddest stories that we ever dealt with. [0:10:13](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=613s) We had two kids that were with us, um, that were brought there from about 80 miles away, and the foster care worker did a heck of a job. I remember that young man showing up at our house at 10 o'clock at night, and he had two kids, and they were brothers. And the older brother, I don't diagnose autism, I can't tell you if he did or didn't, but I... It would be what an attorney, I guess, would say probably looked like autism. And the little brother was the one taking care of him. And if we turned off the lights in the room, he would scream and scream and scream, so we just slept with the lights on for a weekend. [0:10:44](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=644s) Um, still, it was incredibly hard, as you can imagine, little brother's trying to take care of older brother. Um, older brother is, doesn't know how to react to us. We don't know how to react to him. Uh, and we made it through that weekend together, and I say that to say when these services aren't available to families who are living that 24/7, it was hard for us to make it through a 72-hour weekend. I wanna make sure that we're in the position as much as possible to help families and their children stay together when it's appropriate, and I hope that this pilot allows us to advance that cause even further. [0:11:26](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=686s) Um, and appreciate the work that Dr. Zena has, has already done to, to do that. [0:11:32](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=692s) Okay. Let's see if the committee has... Senator Payne. [0:11:37](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=697s) Uh, and they mentioned districts. Where do those districts, uh, derive from? [0:11:41](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=701s) Yeah, they're... Why don't you ask me that question, uh, Chuck? I know that Region 12, that they, I... In my view, they follow mostly close to our regional commissions, 'cause Region 12 for me and my regional commission is the same that I am in my DFCS commission, but I don't, I can't tell you that they match exactly. What we're looking at doing is finding three in different areas, and Senator Brass may tell you that he knows the answer to that if he does. Happy to hear it. [0:12:08](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=728s) Sure. I know there's a little history. A lot of these, uh, districts that we have out there were based on old congressional districts, and then through the years, some groups, like Regional Commission or DFCS, they would, um, update the, the district to match the, the current congressional district. But, you know, not all did that and, and they may have done it, but did it 20 years ago. So in most cases, they originated with a, with a congressional district, and then it's, as the congressional districts changed, not all the districts did. [0:12:46](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=766s) So that's not- [0:12:47](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=767s) DFCS [0:12:47](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=767s) ... I'm not, I don't know that for certain on, on these particular districts, but as a general norm, that's happened a lot. [0:12:55](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=775s) Well, I can tell you that we have 14 right now, so. [0:13:00](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=780s) I did have a question for the author. [0:13:02](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=782s) Oh, okay. Go for it. [0:13:05](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=785s) Um, so when it comes to the... Are we, are we letting the department decide the districts that they will go into? [0:13:13](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=793s) The, the department with providers. So one of the things that we've seen, and we've done this many years as we've funded, um, increased waivers that I know Senator Harrell's been someone to champion, is you can't fund a waiver when you don't have providers in the area. So one of the things that we have to look at when we're picking the pilot areas, the worst thing to give someone is hope without the ability to actually resolve it. [0:13:37](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=817s) Mm-hmm. [0:13:37](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=817s) So we're gonna be looking at regions that have the providers to fill that too. Um, but I, I, I don't need to be involved in that. I'm not trying to do a top-down management. We didn't try to name the districts. Um, we wanna see if what we found in Region 12- Replicates in three other places. And I honestly think after that, you probably then start developing policy. And four times you... While this pilot allows us to go to all 14, uh, I don't, I don't think we have to go to... Four out of 14 probably tells us that this is more than anecdotal. [0:14:06](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=846s) A follow-up, Madam Chair, if you'll allow. [0:14:08](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=848s) Sure. [0:14:09](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=849s) Um, in the past, I've noticed that you, um, you quite often vote against bills that have a impact on the budget. Uh, with this having an impact on the budget and you carrying the bill, are you gonna be able to sleep at night? [0:14:27](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=867s) Well, Senator Brass, I've voted for every budget, and I would vote that the budget itself has the most impact on the budget. Um- [0:14:31](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=871s) I meant bills. [0:14:34](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=874s) So there have been now almost 16 budgets that I believe I've voted for, so. [0:14:38](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=878s) Whatever. [0:14:40](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=880s) Yeah, and this is one of the recommendations from our study committee, is that we expand this pilot. And as all of you know, um, we budget annually, which doesn't always give us the opportunity to see the long-term ROI of the projects that we're funding. But in this case, uh, we know that early inve- intervention and early treatment makes a difference with autism. Um, more questions from the committee? We do have one person signed up to testify. [0:15:14](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=914s) Mr. Lockwood. [0:15:19](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=919s) You guys, it's an honor to be here. Um, thank you for having me here. Um, my name is Peyton Lockwood. I am a volunteer advocate for Autism Speaks, and I am here today providing oral testimony on behalf of Christa Stevens, who is, um, our Autism Speaks director for state government affairs. Thank you for the opportunity to submit testimony in support of Senate Bill 402. Um, Autism Speaks is a national not-for-profit organization dedicated to creating an inclusive world for all individuals with autism throughout their lifespan. [0:15:57](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=957s) We do this through advocacy services, supports, research and innovation, and advances in care for autistic individuals and their families. Autism Speaks applauds the important work that was accomplished last year by the study committee that you chaired, Senator Kirkpatrick, which included Vice Chair Hatchett, Secretary Payne, and Senator Mallow, on transition age youth in Georgia's foster care. [0:16:28](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=988s) During the fourth meeting on November 17th, 2025, the committee heard testimony from two experts on autism, Dr. Magdel Zena and Dr. Nathan Call. Each explained the significant needs of Georgia's foster care in terms of autism identification and support. Dr. Zena reported the findings of Georgia's Department of Human Services Division of Family Children Services DFCS autism pilot program, which notably found that autism is six times more common among Georgia's foster care youth. [0:17:07](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1027s) She explained that 609 foster children were in the original study population, and that 51.6% of youth who were screened for autism screened positive. Of those, 17.4% were later diagnosed with autism. Autism Speaks supports Senate Bill 402 because it is responsive to, to the research showing that children in Georgia's foster care program need targeted resources to better identify those at risk for an autism diagnosis, and move these children through the screening and evaluation process. [0:17:47](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1067s) This will enable them to be eligible for the evidence-based interventions that can make a significant difference in their development. Additionally, as was noted by Dr. Zena, diagnosis and treatment improve placement stability for the children and increase the rate of reunification and adoption. Autism Speaks offers resources and support to the state of Georgia as it works toward addressing the needs of its foster care children who exhibit the behaviors of individuals with autism. [0:18:22](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1102s) One such resource is our caregiver skills training program for families of children with developmental delays and disabilities at no cost to the public. This evidence-based program teaches parents and caregivers the day-to-day skills they need to help children who exhibit their behaviors, often associated with autism, to reach their full potential. Caregivers are taught to use everyday play and home routines as opportunities to build their child's communication engagement, positive behavior, and daily living skills. [0:18:56](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1136s) Parents and caregivers also learn essential problem-solving skills and self-care skills to build confidence, reduce stress, and improve their overall wellbeing, all while learning how to better support their children. Information about this program can be found on our website at www.autismspeaks.org. In conclusion, thank you for the opportunity to s- speak today in support of Senate Bill 402, and for the commitment of this committee to addressing the needs of Georgia's children with autism in foster care. [0:19:34](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1174s) Please feel free to contact Christa Stevens with any questions, and her contact information is included in the written testimony that will be provided. Thank you. [0:19:43](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1183s) Thank you very much for your testimony. Uh, Mr. Dean. [0:19:52](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1192s) Hey. [0:19:52](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1192s) Good afternoon. Uh, my name is Kim Dean. I'm the founder and CEO of two organizations. One is Apollo Behavior Services. Uh, we are dr- the largest Georgia-based provider of ABA therapy. Uh, and, um, I'm also the founder and CEO of Autism Providers of Georgia, which is a, an organization representing, uh, autism providers in Georgia. Um, thank you, uh, Chairman Tillery for this bill, uh, and Chairwoman Kirkpatrick. We, uh, are big supporters of the bill, um, for a number of different reasons. [0:20:24](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1224s) So children in foster care are among Georgia's most vulnerable populations. Uh, they often experience high levels of trauma, instability, and barriers to consistent healthcare. Uh, research consistently shows that early intervention, uh, for autism spectrum disorder has, produces a much better outcome, and also a very significant avoided cost. Uh, for this population in particular, that's even more so true because not only, uh, is there the cost of their healthcare, which is significantly higher if care is delayed, but on top of that, the direct costs to the state are very significant between hoteling, um, and case management and so forth. [0:21:01](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1261s) Um, and so AP- uh, Autism Providers of Georgia is a, a big supporter of SB 402 because we believe it could create, uh, much better access, uh, for this population and, um, I'd be happy to answer any questions. [0:21:18](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1278s) Any questions from the committee? Okay, any further... Thank you very much. [0:21:22](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1282s) Thank you. [0:21:24](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1284s) Question for Senator Tillery. [0:21:28](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1288s) Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, and thank you, uh, Mr. Chairman for Appropriations. I'm deeply grateful for this bill. Um, just a question around the language that's in the bill related to the, um, the expansion of the program. So if we look in sections, its, it's 5B. Um, it talks about subject to appropriations, you have to have this five-year program, and then it says it shall be expanded. So in the event that we appropriate enough funds for the three regions, but let's say next year when we have a different appropriations chairman, we do not appropriate enough funds to expand it, what would happen? [0:22:07](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1327s) Think you'll have a different one next year? [0:22:10](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1330s) I, I'm 100%, I'm 99% sure that we will likely have a different appropriations chairman, but we might have also, you know, a different president of the Senate, so that might have some bearing too. But I just wanna make sure we're not boxing ourselves in. Like, if we can afford three for three regions, but we find ourselves not able to afford four, then we would be in violation of this law as I read it. [0:22:34](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1354s) I think the, the first three words on line 33 take, take precedent. [0:22:41](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1361s) Take precedent? [0:22:42](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1362s) Over the latter sections. [0:22:45](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1365s) With subject to appropriation. [0:22:47](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1367s) So- [0:22:47](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1367s) Right [0:22:48](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1368s) ... if we don't have enough money to expand it to a fourth one- [0:22:54](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1374s) Then we would stop in three [0:22:55](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1375s) ... then we would just stop at three or we would stop completely? [0:22:58](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1378s) I think honestly if you didn't, if we did not appropriate the money this year, you don't do one. So we have to appropriate the money to start. [0:23:06](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1386s) Right. [0:23:07](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1387s) But it, the, the funding is subject to appropriation, so if the money was not funded, then the pilot would stop or would not expand depending upon what funds, whatever funding was laid out in the budget. Am I answering your- [0:23:23](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1403s) Not quite [0:23:24](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1404s) ... okay [0:23:24](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1404s) But I'm concerned that- [0:23:25](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1405s) I'm happy I'm understanding your question [0:23:26](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1406s) ... right. So because it says on line, uh, 30, 39, it shall be expanded to additional service areas each subsequent year, I'm concerned that we might not appropriate enough money for that expansion, and therefore would be in violation of the law and would have to close the entire pilot even if we have the three divisions funded. [0:23:54](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1434s) Th- [0:23:54](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1434s) That's what I'm concerned about [0:23:55](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1435s) ... no, that's not how I read it, but if you- [0:23:56](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1436s) Okay [0:23:56](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1436s) ... have language that you'd like to suggest to change that, that's fine. I, I don't think that's the way that that re- reads. [0:24:01](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1441s) Okay. [0:24:01](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1441s) Usually when we put those first three words in front of, on 33, um, B, it makes it a, it would make the rest of it subject to that. But if there's language that the committee feels more comfortable with, clearly I'm not married to the language. I'm married more to the goal. [0:24:17](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1457s) No, that's fine. If, as long as you're, you feel comfortable that it's, does not shut the program down. Um, and then the last question I have is just, is there any, how do we know if the program is working before 31? Like, before it's over, before that fifth year when they write the report, how will we know if it's working? What are the kind of stopgap measures there? [0:24:39](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1479s) What are, what are the goals? I, I would def- I wanna defer to... I know what my goals are is that we're identifying autism earlier and an ability to treat it earlier, and hopefully see l- that correlation, the six to one correlation that we see now in foster care youth with autism versus the normal population, that we see that falling. But if there are any clinical things that would need to be spoken to, I'd defer to Dr. Zina as to what clinically she's looking for. I can tell you what I'm looking for as someone like you setting up the budget, I wanna see that correlation be less. [0:25:12](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1512s) Right. So I think really maybe I'm not asking that question clearly. Um, I'm concerned that there's no reporting, there's no, um, real kind of accountability written into this bill for five years. So, you know, we in this body are great at passing laws and legislation. They can go for five years and do this program very terribly, and we won't find out for five years. And so I'm just wondering if the author would be open to having some earlier reporting or, or something so that we know that the pilot is actually piloting and, and working. [0:25:44](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1544s) Right. Yeah. Clearly don't have any problem with that. And I, I would tell you I believe that this LC, this, um, draft was made- [0:25:54](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1554s) Somewhat in the knowledge of what's happened in the past. As we started this several years ago, we've been in conversations with Dr. Zina. I know your subcommittee has been in, or the special committee, rather, it was as well. She has been nothing except, uh, maybe even over-communicative, if I had to say something, Dr. Zina. I don't mean that in a, in a bad way towards you at all. Uh, but making sure we knew and stayed in touch. So, um, could there be a blind spot in the drafting based upon how we saw things come? Yes, ma'am, it's certainly subject to that, and if you have something you'd like to suggest earlier, that does not offend me at all. [0:26:31](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1591s) All right. Thank you. [0:26:34](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1594s) Other questions from the committee? One of the things I just want to point out is that, um, the foster kids are in the jurisdiction of one department, but there is a lot of overlap. Their medical care is through another department. Their, uh, any mental health issues, CSB involvement or whatever, that's another department. And so we constantly are working towards improving communication, but, and involving whoever we need to involve to solve the problem, even if the jurisdiction is clearly with DPHECs. [0:27:11](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1631s) And there is hopefully bills that may come to your committee later on that I have drafted that I hope address that, because you're right. You can't have three generals in the middle of the field trying to call, call the plays. It just doesn't work. So I thank you for your committee's work to fix that. [0:27:28](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1648s) Dr. Zina, did you have any closing remarks? [0:27:36](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1656s) Um, I'm happy to answer any questions, and, um, we've produced several white papers previously, um, as soon as all of the data was available. Producing, uh, reports, um, is not really a problem. Uh, in the first part of the pilot, we had more than monthly meetings, um, with all concerned parties for updates on progress. [0:28:09](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1689s) Well, having known Dr. Zina for a number of years, I can attest that she's like a dog with a bone. And so I think we won't have to worry about accountability as long as she's involved with the program. Of course, none of us is guaranteed, uh, tomorrow, much less five years from now. But, um, I think we have had a good history of communication from the people that are working on the pilot now. Okay. If there are no other questions... Oh, Senator Strickland. [0:28:39](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1719s) For the author, I don't want to cause you issues with the bill, but going off what my colleagues was asking, on line 49, we won't get a report to us until July 1st, 2031. Would it be more appropriate to have some sort of annual report given to us on the update what's happening with this? Otherwise, we won't know anything until then. [0:29:00](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1740s) That, that is actually what I expected the senator from the 41st was discussing, and I hope I've made clear that, that that's something that she felt comfortable amending. I think she's now heard from Dr. Zina, who said, "Look, I can turn out a report to you when you want the report." So if that's something that this committee feels that they'd want to change, again, we're married to the goal, not to the language. [0:29:18](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1758s) But to be fair, the report will come from the division. So Dr. Zina could submit that, but the division has to be the one to give us the report. Is there any issue you see with that from your standpoint? [0:29:29](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1769s) If you want to change that, I think we're saying the same thing. But if you want to change that year, there's no problem with me. We can say it. [0:29:39](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1779s) So Senator Strickland, did you have a suggestion? [0:29:43](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1783s) Well, I would... And I'm open to, I'm doing this on the fly as we do, so any feedback, but I'm thinking annually we could get some sort of report on the status of the pilot program, 'cause it does... The language doesn't necessarily require anything too formal. There's, you see the language lines 49 through to 55. So I don't know what would prevent the division from giving us some sort of update annually as to what's going on with the pilot program, but I'm open to anyone that says I'm wrong. [0:30:12](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1812s) Can you, uh, give us some words, or? [0:30:15](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1815s) I would strike no later than July 1st, 2031, the comma, and may put annually. I guess we just say July 1st of each year, don't we? [0:30:25](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1825s) Pass that [0:30:26](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1826s) ... Chairman Tillery? [0:30:27](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1827s) Do you want me to do an amendment? [0:30:28](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1828s) Yes. [0:30:29](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1829s) Yeah. If I was going to amend this- [0:30:30](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1830s) Question [0:30:31](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1831s) ... I would probably say no later than July 1. I would strike the 31, and I would replace it with a 27. [0:30:41](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1841s) After the comma, I would then put and annually thereafter, comma. [0:30:47](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1847s) I think that accomplishes- [0:30:49](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1849s) Yeah [0:30:49](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1849s) ... why you couldn't get it right the first time, but I'm glad we're fixing it now. [0:30:53](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1853s) Yeah. [0:30:53](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1853s) Um- [0:30:53](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1853s) But- [0:30:54](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1854s) We're gonna need a due pass motion before we can amend anything. [0:30:59](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1859s) Opened. [0:31:00](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1860s) Madam Chair, number nine. Uh, Madam Chair, I move we do pass Senate Bill 402, LC number 520892. [0:31:11](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1871s) It's not amended yet. [0:31:12](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1872s) No, no. You gotta, I gotta move a due pass, and then we have to amend it. [0:31:15](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1875s) Is that... [0:31:18](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1878s) Okay. Second by Senator Brass. [0:31:20](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1880s) I'd like to make a motion again. [0:31:22](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1882s) Okay. [0:31:24](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1884s) This is... Madam Chair, I, um, I move, I make a motion that... I move- [0:31:28](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1888s) Right. [0:31:28](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1888s) I, I make a motion that we amend line 49 by striking 31 and replacing that with 27, and then adding and annually thereafter. [0:31:44](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1904s) Comma. [0:31:45](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1905s) Comma. I don't know about the grammar part, but... [0:31:48](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1908s) Uh, ledge counsel, you're good? [0:31:51](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1911s) Yeah. [0:31:51](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1911s) Okay. [0:31:52](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1912s) Way to make sure we put it. [0:31:53](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1913s) Absolutely. [0:31:54](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1914s) Yes. [0:31:55](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1915s) Always got to- [0:31:56](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1916s) Okay [0:31:56](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1916s) ... proper numbering and scriptural errors is- [0:31:59](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1919s) And is there a second? [0:32:00](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1920s) Second. [0:32:01](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1921s) Okay. S- all in favor, raise your hand. Okay, no opposition. [0:32:10](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1930s) That's awesome. [0:32:10](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1930s) So now we're back to the original bill, and we have a motion on the floor due pass with a second. So all in favor of the original bill as amended, raise your hand. [0:32:23](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1943s) For the purposes of committing as a committee substitute, do you need that? [0:32:27](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1947s) It's, it's not a committee- [0:32:29](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1949s) Okay [0:32:29](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1949s) ... substitute. Thank you very much. [0:32:33](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1953s) Thank you. [0:32:33](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1953s) Appreciate it. [0:32:48](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=1968s) Okay, we have one more bill, and it's, uh, Senate Bill 383, and that's my bill, so I'm gonna ask, uh, Chairman Hatchett, Vice Chairman Hatchett to take the seat here, and I'll come around there. [0:33:32](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2012s) Thank you, Madam Chair. When you are ready. [0:33:35](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2015s) Okay. Uh, thank you. And, uh, I have some, uh, friends that I brought along from GBI, and I would like to ask Ashley to come up and join me. Also, Sarah Lui and Philip Curtis, and I forgot... [0:33:52](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2032s) Christopher Diggs. [0:33:53](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2033s) Yeah. Okay. My friends from GBI are here to help. This is an agency bill, and it... Let's see. The LC number... [0:34:05](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2045s) I didn't bring the right folder with me. Okay. LC 630021. Is that what you got? [0:34:11](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2051s) That's right. [0:34:13](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2053s) Okay. The purpose of this bill is to update the law around the Child Fatality Review Commission. That law was originally put in place, I believe, in 1990, and, uh, not much has been done to it since that. So, um, what the bill does, and you have a handout, one page that looks like that, in your folders, and it sort of summarizes what the bill does. It, uh, clarifies the distinct roles of the review committee as... [0:34:48](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2088s) And the medical examiners and coroners. It updates the current technology about, um, [0:34:58](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2098s) child- infant and child deaths. And then it also provides realistic timelines for compliance so that we actually get the reports in a timely way, because what we have in the law now is not really practical and doesn't really work. So, um, I'm gonna ask Ashley to just walk through the specifics real quick. [0:35:20](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2120s) Sure. Thank you, guys, for having us back again to talk about this. Um, it was introduced last year, but not... Just as an, an idea for, um, potential legislation. The changes that the, uh, state panel discussed this year was how we could streamline our process and have better reporting on child fatalities. Some of the changes we made were to, um, add a local hospital representative and school system representative to the suggested members of the local committees, um, to require attendance of an agency representative at annual training for the CFR procedures so that we can make sure we are consistent throughout the state. [0:36:02](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2162s) Um, we, with the updating of terminology, one of the things we looked at was the prior wording had sudden infant death syndrome, which is, um, since become an outdated term for all that it encompasses, so we have changed that wording to sudden death when an infant is in apparent good health, including sudden infant death syndrome, sudden unexplained infant death, and sleep-related. Then with the timelines, um, what we have found is that the timelines in, uh, the wording prior were not feasible with the complex investigations that a lot of these cases go through. [0:36:41](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2201s) So by trying to meet these timelines, we were missing certain deaths. W- our annual report was not fully representative of what was actually happening in those, um, different counties, because we may end up not having all of the data on certain complex cases, such as, uh, child abuse investigations that were extensive or some of the sudden unexplained infant deaths where all information that is available has to be reviewed, and that can take some time, um, with additional testing, medical record review. [0:37:12](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2232s) So, um, we have changed that. We've changed to represent the fact that some of this data can be easier transmitted. There was a form referenced in here which is outdated, as we do things primarily electronically now with the, the data, um, and just updating that timeline. So that is the majority of the changes that we made to, um, this wording in this bill. [0:37:37](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2257s) Yeah. And just to be clear, the timeline for the preliminary report is, has changed from 48 hours to seven days. [0:37:47](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2267s) Yes. [0:37:48](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2268s) So, any questions? [0:37:50](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2270s) Any questions from the committee? [0:37:54](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2274s) There are no questions. [0:37:55](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2275s) I have two. [0:37:56](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2276s) Oh, we got one. Number eight. [0:37:58](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2278s) E- yeah, thank you. Um, and thanks for bringing this, um, Madam Chair. Uh, just wanna make sure, because we are expanding the length of time that the- ... coroner or the county medical examiner has to get this information, how will this impact the families? Will they be delayed in receiving maybe the body back of the infant? Will they be, uh, are, are there any implications on just how the family is able to move forward in terms of grieving their loss of a child? [0:38:24](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2304s) No. [0:38:26](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2306s) It shouldn't impact the families- [0:38:27](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2307s) It doesn't [0:38:27](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2307s) ... at all. [0:38:28](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2308s) Mm-hmm. And so it won't delay access to a death certificate or anything like that? [0:38:34](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2314s) No. That's actually one of the things we're trying to reflect is that with this reporting or these reviews, a lot of times these were happening before the death certificate had been completed or the autopsy report had been completed. So when it came to looking at the cause and manner of death, those things hadn't been determined yet. So this has nothing to do with when the family receives a death certificate or receives their child back after examination. [0:38:57](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2337s) Okay. Thank you. [0:38:58](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2338s) No prob. [0:39:00](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2340s) Thank you. Any other questions? It doesn't look like we have anybody signed up to speak either, so I recognize Senator Payne. [0:39:14](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2354s) Yes, Mr. Chairman, I'm make a motion do pass on LC630021. [0:39:22](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2362s) Got a motion from Senator Payne, second from Senator Jackson. All those in favor? Do... Is there any discussion from senator? Okay. All those in favor, raise your hand. Looks like it is unanimous. [0:39:38](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2378s) What? [0:39:39](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2379s) We amended this bill. We need to fix this one line here. Wonder if we can do that real quick. [0:39:47](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2387s) Yes. I think we, I think we [0:39:51](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2391s) ... [0:39:51](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2391s) So, so she fixed it. [0:39:52](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2392s) I know we may, we might just make sure [0:39:54](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2394s) Like, uh, that's what... I don't wanna [0:39:59](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2399s) Yeah. I just [0:40:00](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2400s) Okay. Well, it looked [0:40:11](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2411s) good. [0:40:13](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2413s) I'm stepping down as chair now. [0:40:21](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2421s) Thank you. While I was concentrating on one bill, Senator Strickland came up with something on the last bill that we need to take a look at. So what's your amend, Tim? [0:40:32](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2432s) I was just looking at the amendment that, that, um, Senator Jackson decided to do. Um, and it looks like we also need to fix lines 58 and 59 because it contemplates the law being repealed upon the report being submitted July 1st, but that was assuming that was the final report. My question would be, do you need us to reconsider the bill to make that amendment now, or is that something you can do? [0:40:58](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2458s) Um, Mr. Rules Chair. [0:40:59](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2459s) Madam Chair, I make a motion that we rescind the passing of- [0:41:04](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2464s) There you go [0:41:05](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2465s) ... SB402. [0:41:10](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2470s) Okay. Discussion? [0:41:12](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2472s) And can I offer an amendment? [0:41:14](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2474s) This come up in rules. [0:41:16](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2476s) Okay. [0:41:16](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2476s) So I know what to do. [0:41:18](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2478s) So on line 59, we need to add the word final. [0:41:21](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2481s) Well, hold on. You gotta take a vote on that. [0:41:22](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2482s) We need to vote on the rescind- [0:41:24](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2484s) Oh, you gotta rescind it first [0:41:26](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2486s) Someone text me- [0:41:26](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2486s) Got a second already [0:41:27](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2487s) ... Bill's saying- [0:41:28](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2488s) So, um, all in favor of rescinding- [0:41:31](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2491s) Aye [0:41:31](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2491s) ... the bill, raise your hand. Okay. Now proceed. [0:41:36](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2496s) Now on line 59, so we add the word final between, um, the and report. Would that be the way to fix that? [0:41:48](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2508s) Who like that? [0:41:55](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2515s) I need the bill to look at. [0:41:57](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2517s) Oh. [0:41:57](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2517s) Rules chair? [0:41:59](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2519s) Oh, come over. Yeah. [0:42:00](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2520s) Thank you. [0:42:00](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2520s) Madam Council, yeah. [0:42:04](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2524s) I thought, no, we gonna write the House amendment. [0:42:06](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2526s) So presumably, what we're talking about is that the report will continue until all of the regions have been included in the pilot. [0:42:16](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2536s) Right. So the bill contemplated repealing the law after the report's done July 1st, 2031, which made sense. But since we added other reporting, the repeal part no longer makes sense how it's written. [0:42:29](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2549s) I think the final, the addition of the word final- [0:42:32](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2552s) Okay [0:42:32](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2552s) ... accomplishes that goal, yes. [0:42:34](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2554s) So I'll move to add the word final between the and report on line 59. [0:42:38](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2558s) Second that. [0:42:39](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2559s) Second. Okay. Any discussion? All in favor, raise your hand. Okay, thank you. [0:42:47](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2567s) And- [0:42:48](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2568s) And then a movement. [0:42:51](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2571s) Huh? [0:42:51](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2571s) Motion to pass. [0:42:54](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2574s) Second. [0:42:55](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2575s) As amended again. [0:42:56](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2576s) As amended. [0:42:58](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2578s) Okay, second. Who, who second? [0:43:00](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2580s) Oh, right. [0:43:01](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2581s) Yeah. [0:43:02](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2582s) Now that he's rescinded, do we need to amend it again where we amended it the first time? [0:43:07](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2587s) We just did that, I think. [0:43:09](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2589s) We just amended it, and now we're moving to do pass as amended. [0:43:12](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2592s) Matt, we- [0:43:12](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2592s) I think we can't write that motion. [0:43:15](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2595s) I think what he's saying is by rescinding the whole bill, we no longer have the first amendment. [0:43:21](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2601s) That's right. [0:43:21](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2601s) So we need to put the first- ... amendment back in place. So I forget who made the motion. [0:43:27](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2607s) That's us. Yeah. [0:43:28](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2608s) You made that motion? Okay. So you wanna make that motion again? [0:43:34](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2614s) Um, Madam Chair, I move that we amend Senate Bill 402 on line 49, replacing 31 with 27, comma, and annually thereafter, comma. [0:43:52](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2632s) Is there a second? [0:43:53](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2633s) Second. [0:43:54](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2634s) Okay. Any further discussion? Okay, all in favor, raise your hand. Okay. And then we need to vote on the entire bill as amended. Mm-hmm. Have a motion? [0:44:09](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2649s) I already made the motion. [0:44:10](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2650s) Second. [0:44:11](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2651s) Okay. Any further discussion? [0:44:14](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2654s) Madam Chair, I just would like to point out that, uh, the gentleman from the 50s is, is looking like a strong candidate for attorney general with these corrections in committee. Just offhand. [0:44:25](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2665s) That's true. [0:44:26](https://vimeo.com/1158952941#t=2666s) Okay, let's vote on the final bill as amended. All in favor, raise your hand. Thank you very much for your patience, committee members, and, um, I think we ended up in the right spot, and I appreciate the help from the rules chairman. So with that, look forward to many more bills that are gonna help our foster kids. And the meeting is adjourned. Thank you.