House Motor Vehicles Committee, February 3, 2026

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   Uh, we maybe not. I forgot to mash the button. There we go.

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   We have a few minutes before the meeting starts, but we do have a sign-up sheet up front if anybody wants to speak to any of the, the, uh, bills that's on the agenda this morning. And we, we're not gonna hear, hear Senate Bill 160. We, we're gonna hold that one until next week. They had some late, last minute changes

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   they're working on, on that one. So we're gonna hold Senate Bill 160.

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   Vance. Will you open in prayer for us? Mm-hmm. What number is Vance? 23, 24, 25? All right. Well, good morning. I'd like to welcome everybody here to s- to our first motor vehicle meeting of 2026. We kinda got iced out last week and, uh, it was, it was too cold. Uh, but we're, uh, excited to get, get started. We got several bills on the agenda. Before we start, I'm gonna ask Rep- uh, Chairman Vance Smith if he'll open in prayer for us. Y'all bow with us. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Lord, we do thank you for this beautiful day you've given us and, uh, we thank you for the people here that are serving.

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   Uh, help us do your will and make the right decisions for the citizens of the State of Georgia. And we ask that you be with our families back home, be with our children and our grandchildren and keep them safe. And lead, guide, direct us, Lord, in everything we do and say. In Jesus' name. Amen. Thank you for that. And I, I should've mentioned, we need to remember, uh, Jenna Doldy, our, our l- legal counsel. Now, her mom passed away over the weekend, so n- keep her in your prayers. So, uh, she does a, a great job for us and, uh, I know she needs to be lifted up this morning.

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   Uh, before we get started, I'm gonna ask, uh, each member to, since our first meeting, kinda introduce their self and what, what district, what counties they represent. And we'll start, uh, to my immediate right down here with, uh, Danny Mathis. What's your, what's your number? 26, Danny? Yes, sir. He, he wants you to introduce yourself. I'll help you. Uh. I need y'all to help. I was studying up on this. M- mash, mash your button. All right. It, okay, you got me now? Yeah. Well, I'm Danny Mathis. I represent District 133.

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   That's Twiggs County, Bleckley County, Wilkinson County, Dodge County, and half of Telfair County. Thank you. Uh, Vance Smith. I'm from Harris County. I represent about 80% of Harris County, small portion of Muscogee, Columbus, and about 40% of Troup County, follow the Chattahoochee all the way up to Heard County. Thank you.

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   Thank you.

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   Kimberly New, Douglas County, Paulding County, District 40.

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    Good morning. Uh, Martin Momtahan, House District 17, uh, in the Paulding County, Georgia, the best, uh, county in the state, I, I would say. Proud to be here. This is the eighth year I've been on this committee. Uh, I'm a continual eight-year Thon and, uh, Chairman Corbett's side, and we have a lot of fun here. This is a great committee, great members. Thank you for that. I'm, uh, Representative John Corbett, District 174. I think I've been chairing this committee for about...

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    It's my eighth year, I, I think, chairing this committee. Uh, I represent, uh, Lowndes, Echols, Clinch, Ware, Charlton, and Brantley Counties. So glad to be here. On my immediate left, I'm gonna introduce our- New ... our, our, our new, uh, aide we got here with us this morning, our policy analyst we, we've, we've got with us that helps us, uh, Dani Nichols, but I'm gonna let her-

12. 0:18:28

    Yeah. Thank you, Chairman. Um, I'm Dani Nichols, and I'm with the House Budget and Research Office.

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    All right. And they here to keep me straight. I, I only keep one for about two years, and they say, "Well, I've gotta get out of there," so.

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    So number 18.

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    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, uh, that's me blinking. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm, uh, Dewey McClain, and I represent House District 109, uh, Gwinnett County. Uh, we have 17 cities, so I want y'all to know that. And out of those 17, I represent four, which is Norcross, Duluth, Lilburn, and Lawrenceville. So glad to be here. And I think, Mr. Chairman, this is my ninth year.

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    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Kimberly Alexander, and I have District 66, which is Douglas County. I was the only woman in this, uh, caucus, in this, um, committee for a long time, so I'm happy to have two additional women now. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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    Num- num- Number two.

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    Good morning. Uh, Representative Brian Prince from Augusta, Georgia.

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    Is that what a mask was?

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    Yeah.

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    Ma- mash your button, Mr. Prince. Num- number 12.

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    Yeah.

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    Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and good morning. I am Rhonda Taylor. I represent the awesome county of Rockdale, and that's District 92.

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    Thank you. Number 28. Dude.

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    Uh, Jason Ridley, uh, Chatsworth, District 6, right in between Blue Ridge and Dalton.

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    Number 27. Thank you. Matt Barton from Calhoun, uh, District Five, uh, up in northwest Georgia right beside this crazy guy. And, and I'd like to commend everybody for the great, uh, attendance we've got this morning. Normally 8 o'clock meeting's tough, but this committee's dedicated and, and ready to go to work, and I want to just thank y'all for, for being willing to do that. Uh, like I say, we've got, uh, four bills on the agenda. We're gonna, uh, hold SB 160. Uh, there's some late last-minute changes they're working on.

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    Uh, but I'm gonna start with House Bill 204. Uh, Representative Dale Washburn, if you come to the table, uh, and tell us about this bill. If you wanna bring somebody with you or, uh, and we'll look at the sign-up sheet if we got somebody who wants to, uh, speak to the measure.

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    Table mic. Thank you, uh, Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen of the committee. I'm here to, uh, present House Bill 204, uh, which is, you often hear that something is a simple bill. This one really is a simple bill. If you'll look at page two, there are, uh, t- three words, four words stricken. Basically, this bill just removes the control of the movers of household goods rather than allowing, uh, their fees to be regulated.

29. 0:21:28

    It simply does that, and we believe it's a good bill. And we think it's best to let the free market work as far as setting rates on moving household goods. This bill was passed out of your committee last, uh, year and, uh, did not make it out of rules. So we're here today to re-present it and ask for your favorable consideration. I'll be glad to answer any questions. I have Lee Lemke here with me, who will answer questions as well. Okay. Well, Lee did sign up to speak to the measure. Lee, you wanna say any, say anything, add anything- Yes ...

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    um, to that? Many of you know me. I've been, um, lobbying down at the State Capitol for the last 40 years and, um, enjoying it very much. But I've been representing the, uh, Georgia Movers Association for the last 15 years. And, um, movers, uh, have been under a tariff, meaning that the state would set the prices of what we could charge. We're simply saying the free market should take care of that. I mean, in other words, if a mover moves to, uh, a company from one place to another, they don't ha- They can set their own rates.

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    And we're still, we still wanna be under the regulation of the Department of Public Safety to ensure that we have, and give us our license so we have, um, have, have the insurance behind it, the safety of our vehicles, and things like that. But the state should not be setting the prices, and that's what our board of directors has, uh, asked me to come before you to ask to, to remove that, um, provision that has been in, in the law for a long time. And how are those rates set?

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    Are they by mile or mileage- Yes, they are ... fee, or is it- Y- yeah, yes, they are. Okay. They're, they're set as, as a... And, and it's a maximum rate that we can charge. Unfortunately, many times, because the economy has fluctuations... And I have to commend the department. Um, they went and hired a, a, an outside consultant, a, an economist who was into logistics, and recently reset our rates again. But for many years it's been difficult to get them set because the, the various, um, aspects and factors in the economy to set those rates, from, from fuel, to cost of, um, goods, to cost of employment particularly, because employment fluctuates, and it's very difficult to find truckers that, that can move the household goods.

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    So that's, that's why we would like to remove that. All right. Number 18. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I, I guess, you know, I'd like to say, um, I, I think it could be a good bill. I don't have any idea. I just wonder who would be, who would have the oversight. I mean, I'm just, if I had a problem with a mover and, and I mean, would I, who would I go to, to Chairman Corbett? No, just kidding. No, you, we, we would still be regulated under the Department of Public Safety. And so you would go there. They still will have that division of household goods and all the other things that dealing with, you know, complaints and things like that.

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    They keep a list of, um, and rating, if you will, of the different movers. The people I represent, give you quick numbers, now these are old numbers, but we used to do, because we're a state that brings in a lot of people, um, but we move inside the state a great deal, about 70,000 moves. My folks are moving almost 90% of those that, that I represent. And so if there is a pro- problem, w- you would still go to Department of Public Safety. Mr. Chairman, I guess a follow-up to, to that.

35. 0:24:56

    So it, uh, so who would, so who, so the movers would set the rates. No, yes. I mean, the move- and so if I had a moving company and Chairman Corbett had a moving company, if his rates were $50 to go one block, and then mine was $10 to go that same one block, I mean, I'm just, so, so you just saying that it's, it's okay. Right. And, and, and generally when customers call, I always tell them, "Get three bids. Go out and seek three different, um, people and, and get those bids." And those, th- th- that's a guarantee, basically.

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    Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. All right. And, and Department of, of, uh, PSC, I guess they would cover, you'd have to be bonded, insured, and all that. They, all those requirements have to be met, uh- Still met, yes. Before you get- Still met. Nothing changes with, with that ... before you get your license. And what we have right now, we still have quite a few unlicensed movers, and that's put, you know... We, we hope that every mover gets licensed. And then I tell, again, tell the consumer when they call, "Make sure that it is a licensed mover." Licensed and bonded. Go on the website and check.

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    All right. Does we have any further questions?

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    Now would be the time. I got a motion to second. Any further discussion? All in favor say aye.

39. 0:26:18

    Aye.

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    All opposed like sign. Thank you.

41. 0:26:22

    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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    Have your bill. Uh, we just had an- an- another member come in. I would like to, uh... We got a full house. I think that- that make- makes everybody. I'm gonna... What- what number are you, Demetrius?

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    16.

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    16. Tell us, uh, what district, you know, what county, and whatever you want- wanna tell us.

45. 0:26:39

    Oh, wow. That's the way you're doing it to me?

46. 0:26:43

    That's right, buddy.

47. 0:26:44

    All right. Let me get myself together 'cause it's hard here.

48. 0:26:49

    I didn't have my take my coat off. No resume. No resume. No resume. No resume. Uh, thank you, Mr. Chair. All that good stuff. Yeah, yeah, all that good stuff. Um, uh, Henry and Clayton County, um, District 78, and I've been a member on this committee for about 14 years now. And, uh, my name, Demetrius Douglas. Uh, I think that's about all. I'm trying to get myself together.

49. 0:27:20

    I'm pretty done. Y- y- you-

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    Go Dogs.

51. 0:27:21

    I was gonna say, y- y- you played football somewhere, didn't you?

52. 0:27:24

    I played a little bit.

53. 0:27:27

    All right. Well, thank you. Our- our next, uh, bill on the calendar is, uh, House Bill 944. Uh-

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    Got your bill. Thank you.

55. 0:27:36

    Uh, w- and, and while, while he's coming to the podium, we, we do have a, a new member here, number 21. He's only been on this committee for how many years?

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    36 years.

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    You wanna tell us what counties you represent and...

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    Are we introducing ourselves?

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    Yes. Yes, sir.

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    My name's Alan Powell. I represent, uh, Hart, Franklin, and Madison County. And, uh, this is my 36th year on this committee.

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    All right. And, and I forgot to, uh, introduce, uh, I- I've, I've got a new AA, uh, this year. Tamaya, will you w- wave at everybody? Uh, you need to have... She's done a wonderful job. She's had a lot to, uh, got, uh, throwed at her here in a short, short while. She started in December, so she's doing a great job. And then Brenda Wash- Washington. Where, where's Brenda at? Anyway, she is a intern. Uh, like to in- introduce both of them this morning and, and thank them for what, what they're doing.

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    All right. House Bill 944. Tell us the LC number and, and, uh, it's pretty, pretty important bill, I think.

63. 0:28:42

    Yes, very important, Mr. Chairman. Uh, first of all, I wanna thank the committee for all showing up for, for my two bills today. It's, it's kind of a nice honor that everybody got up and got here by 8:00, and, uh, just wanna thank everybody. Um, it's House Bill 944, LC 394841. Um, first, before I get started, I wanna, uh, recognize, one, I have Lieutenant Mooney, Vince Mooney, uh, with the Georgia State Patrol, and also we've got, uh, the commercial vehicle enforcement, uh, guys back here and, and over here.

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    I just wanna recognize them, appreciate them being here today. Uh, this piece of legislation, it basically, it, we, it comes every year. It's, it's the, um, it's the, uh, federal government, the guidelines that they give us for commercial vehicles going up and down the road, so we have to codify a new date every year. So we're just moving it from January 1st, 2025 to January 1st, 2026.

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    Move.

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    And second.

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    Uh, I, I don't think we have any questions on that, but...

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    Could you modify the bill?

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    Uh, w- we, we, we have a motion. Uh, do we have a second?

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    Second.

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    A motion and a sec- any further discussion? All in favor say aye.

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    Aye.

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    All opposed like sign. That's finished.

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    We'll see you next year.

75. 0:29:56

    Yes, sir. Next time.

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    That, that's, that, that was a, a great, a great, great job explaining that bill.

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    Thank you.

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    But wh- while you're here, we'll move on to House Bill 1022.

79. 0:30:06

    All right. House Bill 1022, LC 630051. Mr. Chairman, members of the committee, I'm, I'm here today w- with House Bill... Uh, this purpose of this bill is simple, to ensure that vehicle owners and drivers in Georgia are actually complying with our existing laws on window tinting and license plates in light of new and emerging technology. Technology changes every day, and unfortunately, this law is, is not kept pace. Many of you may not realize this, but today there's something called electronic window tinting.

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    This technology allows a driver to have their windows tinted far beyond what is allowed under Georgia law. And if they are pulled over by law enforcement, they can simply press a button and the windows instantly become crystal clear. So from the officer's standpoint, what they've observed when initiating the stop is no longer what they see when they approach the vehicle. The same issue is now happening with license plates and tags. This bill defines electronic tinting as the material that uses electronic current to change the light reflectance or light transmission of a surface.

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    This includes, but is not limited to, electronic, electronic glass and polymer dispersed liquid crystal film. House Bill 1022 makes it clear that electronic tinting may not be applied in the front windshield, rear, rear windshield, side windows, or door windows beyond what is authorized by current law. No license plate may be covered by electronic tinting. No person may display a temporary or permanent tag that is not issued by the State of Georgia and is intended to resemble a Georgia license plate, including digital license plates.

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    The bill also authorizes the Department of Public Safety to promulgate rules and regulations as necessary to enforce these provisions. A viola- a violation is a misdemeanor. For certain violations, a first offense is a fine of up to $500. The second and subsequent offenses fine is up to $1,000. Mr. Ch- Mr. Chairman, members, this is fundamentally about officer safety, public safety, and accountability. Law enforcement officers must be able to see who's inside a vehicle, clearly read and ver- and verify license plates, trust what they observe during a traffic stop.

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    Technology should not be used as a tool to evade the law or create an unsafe environment for our officers. HB1022 simply updates Georgia law to reflect modern technology and closes loopholes that are already being exploited. Mr. Chairman, I appreciate y'all's favorable consideration, members.

84. 0:32:37

    All right, we, uh, we have the, the board's lit up. I think you did explain it very well, so we're gonna have to... I think number 23. Representative Momtahan.

85. 0:32:45

    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for your presentation of the bill. I do have a question. Uh, i- it's kind of two questions. We'll start with number one. I see on line 21 through 23, you striked the manufacturer. Was the intent on striking the manufacturer to not hold the manufacturer of, of one of these types of glazings, electric glazings? What, what was the, what was the impetus there with 21 through 23?

86. 0:33:19

    Basically, you'll, we're... If you'll look through the law, it repeals everything that we, we did as far as electronic tags, and so we did away with that. So anything that was referenced back to the electronic tags, which was done years ago. The, the issue, uh, Mr. Chairman, is, is today's technology, um, that our tags, we're not stamping our tags anymore. They're, they're, they're a flat plate and they, they... We've, we're getting folks out there that are duplicating plates, changing numbers. Uh, just a few weekends ago, I heard a story of somebody had three of the same plates running around Atlanta, and the Flock system was picking them up.

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    So doing away with the, the totally, uh, repealing of the electronic-type tag, it, we took everything, like the manufacturer, everything. If you look further through it, you'll see all that being repealed.

88. 0:34:06

    So thank you, Mr. Chairman. And so, so I think you just answered my question. So in 2019 or 2020, I think we passed the digital license plate bill here.

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    Yes.

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    So the digital license plates allow for a manufacturer of some sort to come in. I think they presented it to this committee, or at least members of the committee. We're doing away with that. We're saying-

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    Yes

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    ... you cannot have the d- did we ever actually deliver on those plates?

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    I do not know f-

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    I, I don't think we ever did.

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    I, I, I think, I think it's out there, but they're so expensive, uh, correct me if I'm wrong, uh, eight, $900 for the tag.

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    Minimum.

97. 0:34:42

    No- nobody's gonna spend that unless you're a, you know, pro football player like, like Dewey down here.

98. 0:34:51

    But, but anyway, I think, I think that's the, the problem with it. I, I think we, we did it-

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    It's-

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     ... but they're just so expensive

101. 0:34:55

     ... with the technology, everything's done on an app now. So you could sit there and, and change out the, the, you know, the tag to whatever you want it to be. And, and, and you can... You know, also you could get, put a, uh, this day and time, a screen back there. It may not be the, one of the ones that the manufacturer made, but something that, that's, that is a screen that you can use an app to change tag numbers out and, of course, also tint them. And you've got the ones on motorcycles, you see the ones that flip up. I'm not even addressing that. We're just talking about basically right now the tinting of tags and electronic tags.

102. 0:35:30

     So, uh, and thank you for that. I think that makes sense. You know, when I was a kid, we used to watch James Bond. If you remember, he had a flipping license plate. So now does that contemplate, when you say electronic, if somebody were to have a Aston Martin with a flipping license plate, did you contemplate, uh, where this could go in the future, Chairman?

103. 0:35:52

     Well, uh, you kind of remind me of James Bond a little bit. Um-

104. 0:35:58

     Well, God bless you. Uh, Mr. Chairman, at the appropriate time, I'd like to make a motion.

105. 0:36:03

     No.

106. 0:36:04

     M- m- more like Gold Bond.

107. 0:36:05

     No, like, you know, I don't...

108. 0:36:10

     Sorry. Um-

109. 0:36:12

     We do have a few more questions.

110. 0:36:13

     Okay. All right.

111. 0:36:15

     All right. Number 28. Representative Ridley.

112. 0:36:19

     Oh, my gosh, that was a good one about the Gold Bond. Uh, oh, um, yeah, we're back on our bill here. Um, so I guess my question is this. So I understand for the, the part of the, of d- of police officer safety. But if you're going by, you see that it's tinted, you're try- probably pulling that car over for the windows being too dark, correct? And then when you-

113. 0:36:41

     That's, that's up to, I'll let-

114. 0:36:43

     Yeah. And then when you walk up, the windows aren't tinted anymore.

115. 0:36:45

     That's correct.

116. 0:36:46

     So is it a safety thing or is it a ticket thing? Because now the windows aren't tinted, so the, the safety part's out, kind of out the window at that point.

117. 0:36:54

     Well, we kind of addressed that in the law.

118. 0:36:56

     Okay. Where's it?

119. 0:36:57

     That, that... In as far as a window, the tinting, you have the, the, the, the percent that you can tint a window is around 32%. And it's the officer's discretion whether it's plus or minus three with that 32. They've got a device called a window tint detector that they go up and they put on each side. Now, they should be able to tell if the, if you've got the device in there that you're tinting your windows. I mean, if you see, um, it's very dark one moment, then clear the next, I mean, that's gonna be a discussion just like any time someone's pulled over.

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     You know, you, you trust the person-

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     So-

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     ... that you're having a conversation of, "Why, why, I, I saw this dark."

123. 0:37:33

     So is, is these things, are they darken them? Are they more dark than the legal, or, or can you get certain percentages?

124. 0:37:41

     They go as dark as you want to. Yes.

125. 0:37:42

     And you just turn the knob and it makes it darker or lighter?

126. 0:37:44

     Correct. It's like a button you push. Yes, sir.

127. 0:37:45

     Okay. All right. Um, and you can't... Well, I guess when they hit the button, you can't really test it to see how dark it can get or... Okay. Um, I guess, I, I mean, that's the only question I had, was like, I mean, I understand the whole front part, like when you're walking up to the car and not being able to see in it. But if you are, then the, it's off, then you can actually see in it. So that's the reason I was asking. We just had some troubles with, uh, one s- specific, um, police department down on the other state, uh, that's pulling everybody over for them.

128. 0:38:16

     So that's what I just, I don't want to get to that point. But, um, all right. Thank you.

129. 0:38:23

     All right, number 17, Representative Alexander. Thank you, Mr., uh, Chairman. I wanted to go to the, um, the portion where you're asking for 1,250. How did you come up with that amount? One thousand- If it, if it is really about safety, how did you come up with these fees? It's up to, so it's officer's discretion that, you know, for the, for the first fine up to 500, and the second time and, and continual fine, uh, in the... You'll, you'll see that in the computer. Somebody keeps doing it, it's up to 1,000.

130. 0:38:55

     Right. N- another question, Mr. Chairman. So if we already have a rule where law enforcement can stop you and ticket you for a certain tints and the amount of the tint, then what is really the purpose of this bill? The purpose of the bill is so that, that those are out there that are riding around with their tinted windows, and when they, when the law enforcement pulls them over for that, they, they go to clear. Okay. They're not supposed to have the tinted, the dark tinted windows in, in any form. Follow-up question. Yes, ma'am.

131. 0:39:25

     Right. So what is that data? How many? What is the occurrence in the State of Georgia that that is occurring? Do you have numbers? I do not have any numbers. No, ma'am. That, that would be... Th- th- This is a relatively new technology that we've, we've actually just been made aware of this year. Um, and so it's, it's something we haven't even started tracking yet, but we're just trying to get ahead of the curve ball on it. Right. So no numbers as it relates to that tracking? No, ma'am. Okay. There's probably some numbers that relates to just windows being tinted that's not electronic.

132. 0:40:01

     There's probably, it's something out there with that. Of, of course, I, you know, I've, I've personally ridden with, uh, public safety before, and a lot of the cars you see out there in Atlanta, they're, they're dark tinted windows. And you just, you know, a lot of times you pull over, you'll have a discussion and, and, uh, just you'll test the, with electronic, um, uh... I mean, the window tint detector. And it's up to the officer whether he gives them a pass, gives them a warning, or, or, uh, fines them. Right. Thank you.

133. 0:40:31

     All right. What are we giving next? 23. Representative Momtahan. Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman. And a, a, just a follow-up question to our previous topic. Mm-hmm. Do you think more Roger Moore or Pierce Brosnan? I, I was saying that Sean Connery look when you get a little grayer. Oh, boy, Sean Connery. Okay, I'm not sure about my motion anymore, Mr. Chairman. All right. Now we, we can get back on topic. Representative 18, Representative McClain. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I, I guess I'm, I'm going back to the tinted windows because again you said it was up to, and, uh, I have a problem with that.

134. 0:41:06

     I know it's at the officer's discretion. Um, I only say that because I do know that there's some, uh, some doctor's excuses that allow some things that are in cars that, uh, allow the windows to be a little tinted. Does, does that have any... I'm just, just asking, any bearing? Because I mean, the reason I said, because I know that my wife has one and I w- uh, and so it's probably old. But I just wanted to make sure that the tint, you know, it says that because of her, her, her illness that, you know, that the windows need to be tinted.

135. 0:41:42

     Is that a- We did not change anything under current law of the, the- Okay ... of the window tinting. We're just, we added electronic window tint- Okay ... where you can turn it on and turn it off. I just wanted to make sure that- So we did not change anything that, that- Right ... the previous law about, you know, where, you know, the, the, uh, 32% plus or minus three. All that's the same. Uh, we just added you cannot have electronic tint where you're turning- Okay ... uh, going over the 32 and then going down to zero. Yeah. That was my, my only concern was I didn't want all of a sudden to say that- Yes ...

136. 0:42:12

     the, the doctor letter, that the MD that she has, I wouldn't want, I wouldn't want her to be... I wouldn't want to be stopped and, and I give them a letter and they says, "Oh no, we, letter's no good." But anyway. Sure. Thank you. Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

137. 0:42:29

     I'm trying to turn it... Okay. Uh, seeing no further questions, uh, I'd be willing to entertain a motion if somebody wants to. So moved. Second. We got a motion and a second. Any further discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed like sign. Thank you, committee. Thank you. Appreciate everybody. All right, we have one more bill this morning. I'm gonna ask, uh, Representative Clifton, he'll come up to the table and t- tell, tell us about some small trucks.

138. 0:43:22

     Good morning, Mr. Chairman, members of the committee. Um, I have HB 957. Um, I will be short and brief. This bill made it through committee, through the House, through the Senate, all the way, um, last year. Um, and unfortunately, due to some additions by the Senate, it was decided to be, um, vetoed. It did not. Or it, it was not able to pull that Senate bill across the finish line. This truck's one- No, no sir. Just it was, it, it's just a little too small of a truck. Maybe a full-sized truck, but these miniature trucks are, they're limited in weight, so.

139. 0:43:55

     Um, so but we're back with the original bill. Nothing in it. I actually have, um, support from the governor's office. They like this bill. They were very clear that they had no problem with my bill and would support it, so they asked me to run it again. So here I am. Um, so this is the mini truck bill. We're essentially adding the word mini truck to, um, the statute, uh, basically next to side-by-sides the way we did, uh, be- three or four years ago. Just allows them to be driven on county and city roads unless they are marked and the counties and cities don't want them dri- driven on the roads, so.

140. 0:44:27

     As far as like insurance requirements and that kind of stuff, you got blinkers, turn signals, mirrors, just like they did the side-by-sides or the

141. 0:44:35

     Yes, sir. Absolutely. It's, um, it's, I mean, it's a standard vehicle. I would, I would make the argument they're probably a little bit safer and have more of the typical road, um, driving features than a side-by-side would. But, um, yes, sir, they're a standard vehicle, just a lot smaller. All right. Number 28. Chairman Ridley. Oh, I, I was just gonna say, I, I think we've been on this thing for about eight years now. Uh, and I think we've heard every side of it and everything else. So at the, at the proper time.

142. 0:45:05

     Uh, one, one more question. We got number 23. I, I get ... I think it's a question. Oh, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Representative, thank you for bringing the bill. Uh, I was, you know, that Senate bill that took a ride on this- Mm. ... um, just didn't have the, the butt to get it over the finish line. I had a question for you, though. Um,

143. 0:45:27

     it says four or more wheels. So, now how many wheels do you contemplate a mini truck actually having? I would say a standard mini truck would have four. Um, I'm not aware of an off-road vehicle that has six, but, you know. If you wanted to build a mini truck, how many wheels would you put on it? Definitely four. Seems like a good, stable number. Just four. Yeah, yeah. Um, could you explain to us, or maybe diagram, what a non-straddle seat is? Um, so a straddle seat would be something like a motorcycle.

144. 0:45:59

     So if you're driving, if the inside of your mini truck looks like a motorcycle and have, you know, handlebars like this, that's not working in this scenario. It's a typical seat with a typical steering wheel. So you would say that the seat that you're sitting in and the seat that I'm sitting in is a non-straddle seat? Uh, yes. I would agree with that. Okay. Thank you. Good bill. How about tinted windows? All right. Number 12. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just for clarity purposes, I keep hearing truck, but this is also, uh, referring to the mini vehicles with the five wheels that they, that's so popular now.

145. 0:46:36

     Three. They're two-seaters. I, I don't know the name of them. Three-wheelers. Three. Yeah, the three-wheelers. So this- Does this- ... this would not apply. This is strictly for four, four wheels. Mini. Okay. Let's see if I can find exactly where that is, but- So the, the ... Even though they're classified as miniature as well, it excludes certain miniature vehicles- And the- ... and only the ones with four wheels. This would just be four wheels, absolutely. Thank you, Mr.- 28. Groff. There we go. I went too far. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, uh, Line 28D is designed to travel on four wheels or more.

146. 0:47:10

     So a three-wheel v- three-wheeled vehicle would not fall underneath the statute.

147. 0:47:18

     One more question. Number 18. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman, you come here? Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. It's okay. Chairman, I was just looking at the, uh, the safety issues. It said the multipurpose off-highway vehicle shall be equipped with, uh, you know, headlights, brake lights, tail lights, rear view mirror, and safety belt. So I, I guess no airbag or none of that stuff is required, or ...

148. 0:47:44

     I, I'm just asking. I didn't know. I don't believe so. These are for ... Uh, I guess also to say these are only for vehicles older than 25 years old. So these are, would also be based on, um, antiques and would be, uh, taxed accordingly at the cost of a dollar. So these are older vehicles. Newer vehicles fall underneath the federal guidelines, and what I have been told, um, is that that's not something we can change. So these are- Effective ... vehicles, um, beyond the year of 2000. Oh, 2000.

149. 0:48:14

     Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. All right, seeing no further questions, uh, Representative, we got a motion do pass. Do we have a second? Second. A motion and a second. Any further discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed, lights on. You have your bill, and that's, uh, what wraps up our meeting. Thank you, everybody, for being here. The meeting is adjourned. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, members. You got some bills to sign? I want an airbag. I want an airbag in this son of a Billy, we can all tell you've never been on a motorcycle.

150. 0:48:53

     We don't put airbags in the side-by-sides.

151. 0:48:59

     I know. Do not let him put anything else on it. Someone else will

152. 0:49:17

     do it.