House Motor Vehicles Committee, February 20, 2026

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1. 0:16:01

   Um, I'm not sure as to how to go forward with still passing it out.

2. 0:16:06

   Will you return, uh, will you, uh, say a prayer for us this morning? I understood what you meant.

3. 0:16:12

   I just want to keep everybody waiting.

4. 0:16:17

   I'm saying he's behind it and I know John.

5. 0:16:21

   Joe?

6. 0:16:21

   It's not us tonight.

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   Joe, the black hair gentleman.

8. 0:16:23

   Yeah.

9. 0:16:24

   Alan, you doing well? Yes sir, how are you doing? I'm doing great, sir. Yeah.

10. 0:16:31

    All right. W- w- Yeah. Good, good morning everybody. If I could have your attention, uh, it is, uh, 8:02. Uh, and I know we- we- we've got a sh- short, short, uh, timeframe. We, session starts at 9:00. Uh, I'm gonna go ahead and call this meeting to order. I'm gonna ask the Vice Chair Barton to he'll, uh, open in prayer for us.

11. 0:16:51

    Thank you, hit. Heavenly Father, thank you for the gathering we have today. Let it be for the business of Georgia and the best we can for you. Amen.

12. 0:16:59

    All right. Thank, thank you for that. Uh, first, I, I just wanna say House Bill 11, or 1267, uh, we've, I've had several meetings, uh, since, since Tuesday, uh, with, uh, everybody that's concerned. Had a, a long meeting yesterday. Uh, and I think the posture that I'm in with this bill this morning, uh, since I do not have, uh, my legislative counsel, Jenna, here to make the changes that we need, it's gonna be, I think, uh, preli- it'll be, uh, we, we can't really comment on what we don't, don't have out there yet.

13. 0:17:33

    So I, I, I think we need to, uh, I'm just gonna talk about f- what, what we're planning on doing. Uh, but, you know, the question was, you had two bills passed last year, let them take effect. Uh, but, you know, the study committee did just, you know, uncovered quite a few things, some fraud that's going on. And, uh, I, I do think we need to go back and address that. And from everybody I've talked to, they didn't have an issue with the, with the, uh, penalties be- in the first five sections of the bill. You know, section six, uh, we just gonna add the, the vans have to be added to TOPS.

14. 0:18:06

    Uh, where the felonies we had, other than, you know, first section where you're counterfeiting the plates, you know, that's gonna be a felony. But the other two we- we're adding, if you mess with the odometer, uh, that, that will be a felony. And if you do something to your certificate of title, if you willfully, uh, you know, falsify that, the, the, the blank titling, there's some issue there. I think we're gonna put that back like it was as a misdemeanor, but we're gonna make the fines consistent with what the first five sections of the bill are. Uh, so we're gonna remove that. The insurance part notification, that will be left in there after talking with everybody.

15. 0:18:37

    Uh, I, I think we're changing from, from terminate to, uh, cancel or expire. Uh, so I, I think that addresses my, my, what I was trying to do with that. Um, so other, other than that, I say I think it's gonna be, um, it'd be too, too early to really comment on until we, we have, have the, the legislation out there for everybody to, to look at. So at, at this time, I th- I, I think Chairman Powell might want to say something, and then we'll, we'll move on.

16. 0:19:08

    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And, uh, you know, first I want to thank you for the, uh, diligence that you've put into this. After we did the, uh, this past summer, the hearings that we had, and it was on TOPS, and it became much more than that with, uh, law enforcement talking about so many parts of the, um, criminality of counterfeiters and, and things such as that. It's, it's, this has really become a public safety issue as much as a consumer protection issue.

17. 0:19:40

    And I've listened to all the discussion, and I've fielded a lot of the phone calls. And upfront, I'll apologize from last week, 'cause had one of the board members thought that I had possibly insulted him. But, you know, I kind of look at things in black and white terms. Um, you know, I've tried to chew on this thing since the meeting the other day. And, uh, then I've heard some of the commentary, then a lot of the misinformation that's being put out there about how this is gonna affect so many of the used car dealers or these folks who want to be a used car dealer in training and that kind of stuff.

18. 0:20:18

    And after having put a lot of thought to it, um, you know, we're trying to fix something that to me could be fixed a lot simpler. And this is only for the members to consider in the next day or two. But, you know, we've got two agencies. We've got, uh, part of this stuff sitting over in the Secretary of State's office. Uh, we've got a bigger part of it sitting over in Revenue to what they do to enforce titles and the process and things like this.

19. 0:20:52

    You know, when you get two different agencies, it's hard enough to communicate within one agency, much less two agencies. And then I got to thinking, of course on the committee that I chair, we deal with a lot of revenue issues and things like that. And I thought about this issue about why do we need a board.

20. 0:21:15

    You know, one of the guys told me the other day that, uh, when they changed the rules about lot requirement and office space and thump, something like that, that they were told that they had to do it by, by the Attorney General's office. And I made some inquiries. Well, that's not exactly so, is what I was told. And I've thought about it to streamline this industry. I've dealt doing constituent work. Uh, I've got a, a, a used car dealer, and they've been in the business for years, and I mean years.

21. 0:21:52

    And they try to do it the right way, and the issues they had, I see my good friend over there with the Secretary of State's office, uh, had to call on them to get these folks' license cleaned up. Then the other part over at Revenue And it just seems to me to be that we have a situation here that is flawed. We know about the tops, and we've tried to repair that with the help of, uh, revenue department. And quite frankly, it looked to me like this, uh, e-commerce stuff that was being done up there before we put some guardrails on the tops, that that seemed to be the most lucrative, uh, business of selling top stacks.

22. 0:22:36

    Now, that's been plugged up. We know for a fact that if you got dealer plates, and when we look at the numbers about how many folks that's, uh, got an office space, they got dealer plates. We've had a member that, uh, we've got a member from wherever he's from. He's pretty, you know, I'm not gonna say what he is, but he rides around, and they take pictures of how many folks are sporting around in high-end cars with dealer plates on. You know, I'm not gonna make any accusations, but I know how this operates.

23. 0:23:10

    But I would think that for the benefit of this committee, to give you something to think about before a final version is put together, that would it not be a very simplified measure to unplug the licensing from over at Secretary of State's office? They got enough to say grace on as it is. They don't have enough inspectors. They're sitting over there trying to... Their inspectors are either doing cosmetology inspections or-

24. 0:23:41

    Mm-hmm

25. 0:23:41

    ... or the various 30 boards and all of that, so they don't have that manpower.

26. 0:23:49

    This industry, to me, would be just as well-suited to put it under revenue to set the specific standards that if you're a used car dealer, then these are the things that you do to qualify, and these are the things that you do. That's quite frankly the easiest way to do it. If you're gonna be a used car dealer, be a used car dealer. We've looked at the numbers. I don't even know what the real numbers are right now, but I think last year we were talking about there was 7,800, and over half of them hadn't sold any cars.

27. 0:24:25

    I mean, to me, this is a disservice to the real professionals, and I'm talking about the professional used car dealers. They're in there to make a living. They got a office. They got a lot. Not like what we saw on the consumer issues the other day about someone that buys a vehicle and they have to chase somebody down, and it's their brother, or they're imposing their self as somebody else or whatever. But I think that we would- w- we are doing a disservice to the legitimate used car dealers because not only are they having to deal with all this menagerie of dealing with two forces, and what they're also having to deal with is a lot of, of unprofessionals that out there that have got them a license for no other purpose than to have a dealer plate that they can escape TAVT tax or whatever it may be.

28. 0:25:23

    And if we do this, then we'll cut to the chase to find out who are the real professionals. Who are in this business? Y'all have heard me say this. There's a couple things I want to reiterate, and I've always believed this, that the second, in most of people's lives, the second-biggest investment they have is a car behind buying a home. That's the reason we put that language in your substitute about if you're gonna be in the business, put your address, put your phone number, put your contact on there so that you can be served if you're not doing the right job.

29. 0:26:02

    Secondly, behind politicians and lawyers, used car dealers probably have the worst reputation. Everybody thinks that all three categories are subject to be looked at. But we can turn this back into a true professional business, and I think that it would be worth this committee to think about, about moving this whole show over to the revenue department. Set the specifications by law, by code statute, let them enforce it, and that's something I'd just like this committee to think about, and my thanks to the chairman.

30. 0:26:38

    I may have just made your life a lot more complicated with this.

31. 0:26:42

    Well, you messed up my weekend.

32. 0:26:44

    But then again, I also think that last year what the current law says, you gotta have a, a office space of 250 feet. And if, uh, nothing happens in this bill, that's gonna remedy part of the problem. So that's all I wanted to talk about today, and I've said enough.

33. 0:27:04

    Thank you for comments. We had two more that'd like to make some comments. 26.

34. 0:27:10

    Thank you, Chairman, and thank you, Chairman, for the comments. And I think that's a very interesting idea, and it's something that we could explore future, in the future, um, because it is a bigger issue as far as to tackle, especially in the scope of this really Tilly Whopper of a bill that we've got going on here. Um, but I think the concerns of this bill is that we are small business owners in Georgia trying to make a living, and we don't really understand the unintended consequences that some of these things might do to our business.

35. 0:27:47

    And the problem is, is that once these unintended consequences happen, we don't meet again till January. So with us having a family business of 720 employees waiting for us to come back and fix whatever happens because of these unintended consequences, we're gonna be out of business. And so that's why we've had these conversations with the chairman, and we appreciate that he has been very open and willing, and thank you very much.

36. 0:28:17

    Um, I would like to know how the secretary of state feels about maybe changing that to, um, you know, taking that away from them. And, um, yeah.

37. 0:28:29

    Yeah.

38. 0:28:29

    We just need to be careful when we're regulating these small businesses, how it affects them, because again, we don't meet again till January, and it's scary.

39. 0:28:36

    And, and-

40. 0:28:36

    Thank you

41. 0:28:37

    ... and, and to that comment, the list I got yesterday, pretty all-inclusive. I think we've addressed all that, so I think that's, that's-

42. 0:28:42

    Yes, you've been very kind, and I appreciate it

43. 0:28:44

    ... that helps. I think-

44. 0:28:44

    I appreciate all the-

45. 0:28:45

    What we're gonna do is address that

46. 0:28:46

    ... all the time you've-

47. 0:28:46

    And then I think-

48. 0:28:47

    ... you've given us

49. 0:28:47

    ... what he's talking here is just moving, moving the board over, and I think we can have the secretary of state next, next Tuesday come up. One more and then we're gonna move on to the other, other bills on the-

50. 0:28:56

    Thank you.

51. 0:28:57

    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, I'm sorry. I should've let you recognize me first, but thank you, Mr. Chairman. I wanted to thank you, uh, for your work on this bill. I think over the past two years we've seen all the issues with these types. I remember sitting on this committee here and being able to go on Facebook Marketplace and find one of these dealer tags ready to buy right here on my phone. It was right there, and I showed the committee. Um, so I appreciate, uh, the work that's been done.

52. 0:29:30

    I know that you're gonna continue to work on this bill. I just wanted to add maybe a little flair of context. I may be the youngest one on this committee. Guys my age and gals my age and, you know, new families with kids, they don't always have the time to go to a traditional dealer model, and everyone's doing everything online. I, I just want that to be a part of the context here, I think, as we color in these, in making sure that Georgians and the next generation of Georgians have the options that they want when it comes to making these kinds of purchases.

53. 0:30:17

    And I appreciate the work that you've done. I think, uh, we've been pretty, uh... I've been pretty happy in just watching you work with all these different advocates, and it's been very impressive. So thank you for the work on that, and I know you'll, you'll hammer this thing out and get it perfect.

54. 0:30:34

    Yeah. We're gonna... You... What, what, what's the old saying? Don't let, you know, perfect be the enemy of great or good.

55. 0:30:43

    Approaches.

56. 0:30:43

    I think I probably messed that up, but something to that effect. But anyway, all, all noted, and that's, that's what- what's going on. Gentlemen, we- we- we'll be back Monday. Uh, like I say, uh, I guess, Secretary of State, will y'all be willing to come back Tuesday and-

57. 0:30:58

    Especially if it's 8:00 AM. Yes, sir.

58. 0:31:00

    Absolutely. We love 8:00 AM.

59. 0:31:05

    Mr. Chairman, if I could make a, a 10-second comment on that proposition about-

60. 0:31:11

    Well-

61. 0:31:11

    ... getting, getting this out.

62. 0:31:12

    Are, are, are you prepared to comment to that if you come to the podium and do that?

63. 0:31:17

    Just for the benefit of the committee members.

64. 0:31:23

    He's gonna stay up here.

65. 0:31:23

    Good morning. Liz Houseman, chief of staff for the Secretary of State's office. Um, I served on this committee, and I appreciated that opportunity very much, so I just wanted to thank y'all for that. Um, as we stated during the committee meetings, this process has a lot of flaws, as was mentioned by Representative Powell, um, that it's really difficult to fix when it's spread over two agencies. Um, the secretary's goal in all of our divisions has been good customer service and a good government, and we feel like in order to provide that, that putting it over in one agency or the other, um, makes the most sense.

66. 0:32:01

    Now, when that happens, uh, the resources need to follow it.

67. 0:32:06

    Yes.

68. 0:32:06

    Okay? We are so short-staffed and spread so thin, as was also noted, that there's no way for us to do the enforcement piece on the front end that y'all are looking for with your changes, and do it adequately and do it right. So I've expressed that to the chairman. Um, we're willing to, you know, make some changes if necessary, but it is in the best interest of the citizens of the state, I think, to have it housed in one, one agency. Happy to take any questions-

69. 0:32:32

    Well-

70. 0:32:32

    ... if you have any.

71. 0:32:34

    I, I think that's good. Thank, thank you.

72. 0:32:35

    Thank you.

73. 0:32:35

    Thanks for coming, and we look, look forward Tuesday morning. All right. We will move on to the other two bills on, on the calendar this morning. And we've got... Where, where's my... There we are. Let's, let's, uh, go to Chairman Carson, if you'd come up and present your bill.

74. 0:33:02

    To tell us the LC number and, uh, the bill number.

75. 0:33:08

    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

76. 0:33:11

    Uh, sorry about that. Podium mic. Where we at?

77. 0:33:13

    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Pleasure to be back, and I'm glad I'm not bringing a dealer tag bill. Um-

78. 0:33:24

    This is, um, uh, House Bill 809. This was, uh, the, like, like we talked about last week, uh, in committee, and I appreciate the committee's intelligence. This was brought to me by, uh... The idea for this was brought to me by a civil engineer, uh, constituent who said, "Gentlemen, we really have an issue in regard to the gap between our minimum and maximum speed limits." We had a, have had a minimum speed limit of, of 40 miles per hour ever since the early '70s that I can see, uh, based on my research. And when there was a change of control in Washington, DC, in regard to regulations, federal highway regulations, the, our speed limit, uh, was allowed to be increased from 55 to 65, and then again later to 70 miles per hour, but yet we never did anything to the minimum speed limit.

79. 0:34:11

    Uh, I heard from the committee's feedback. I worked with, uh, the, the, well, Chairman Powell, uh, several members of the committee, the speaker pro tem, and we came back with a, what I think is a compromise bill. And actually, we first looked at, and I also spoke with, um, uh- Former director of the Governor's Office of Highway Safety. We looked at limiting the effectiveness of the bill just to limited access highways. And then actually we worked again, and I thank Legislative Council for their indulgence, we wo- worked again to tighten the bill such that under this, um, committee substitute, uh, Chairman, I, I do hope it's been distributed.

80. 0:34:49

    I, I'm working off of LC394961S.

81. 0:34:53

    That's what we have.

82. 0:34:54

    Yes. Uh, so basically you can see the wording in here on, on lines 20 through 22. What we're doing is we're limiting the effectiveness of the new revised minimum speed limit of 50 miles per hour to just interstates in Georgia and Georgia 400. So we weren't looking at anything, any highway, public highway 65 miles per hour or over. Uh, we've... Our first, uh, crack at it was to look at just at limited access highways. But actually I've been told, and thank Chairman, uh, Montan for making me aware, there, there might be other limited access highways that are other than interstates and Georgia 400.

83. 0:35:32

    So what, what we're looking to do is reduce the number of rear-end collisions, as noted, uh, in the letters of support from, uh, public safety, um, uh, advocates, p- Department of Public Safety, the, the sheriffs, the chiefs of police, all knowing that this is an issue having that, that large amount of gap between the minimum and maximum speed limits. But we're, we're, uh, we're p- submitting for your consideration a compromised legislation such that we're just looking at doing this for interstates and Georgia 400.

84. 0:36:03

    And that's as quick as I can make it at 8:15, sir.

85. 0:36:07

    Yeah. And, and I guess the, the implement- the effective date, did you push that back or whatever?

86. 0:36:11

    Uh, I'm sorry, yes. That's absolutely correct. Um, I, I apologize for not noting that. We changed the effective date in section two on line 42, July 1st, 2027. I thi- uh, I, I think that's gonna be a much more, uh, palatable, um, effective date for, um, uh, GDOT and, uh, and other, and, and, and state law enforcement, uh, and local law enforcement as well. You also will see, uh, I've been working with, uh, GDOT. We, we have a cost estimate for how many, for how much per sign, uh, replacement's gonna be.

87. 0:36:47

    It's gonna be just less than $1,000 depending on how much traffic diversion and what have you needs to be done, to multiply it by the number of signs. The, the most recent estimate I've received was about 980 signs across the state. However, we've since limited the bill to not just limited access, but also just interstates and Georgia 400. So I think if you're talking less than $1,000 a sign and less than 1,000 signs, we're well less than a million dollars over the next year to raise our minimum speed limit and reduce rear-end collisions.

88. 0:37:20

    Uh, we do have a couple questions. So Representative McClain.

89. 0:37:23

    Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you very much. You did answer one of my question about the cost, so I do appreciate that. Uh, I'm always concerned about, uh, elderly drivers and enforcement of this, and I've always, uh, you know, as a kid growing up in Oklahoma, you know, we had 40 miles and we had some folks, uh, that liked driving 38 and 39. And, and I was riding with one on one day, and I just, I say this because it was ironic. And the highway man pulled us over and, and he said, "You, 'cause you, you're going, you know, you're going less than the speed limit." And that just-

90. 0:37:54

    Less than the minimum speed limit

91. 0:37:55

    ... it was less than the minimum speed, which was 40. And it just, you know, it just shook the, the, the elderly person. So I j- I say that to say that, you know, as, as I get a little older, I, I wanna make sure that we are aware, to make sure that we take care of the, the senior population.

92. 0:38:13

    I, Representative McClain, I think you are as young as you were in the NFL draft, sir. I really do.

93. 0:38:19

    Thank you.

94. 0:38:19

    I, I think these self-driving cars are gonna fix all that.

95. 0:38:22

    Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

96. 0:38:25

    And, and I, I wanna say thank you to, to my friend, uh, for that. And I, I, I heard, uh, Representative Taylor's comments. And so what, that's what we're trying to do, is not creating too much of a sol- uh, uh, we're trying to make a compromise because there could be people that are going 40 miles, you know, 41 miles per hour or what have you on some limited access highways. But I, I, I just personally feel, and it's, it's really loo- looks that way based on letter of support from public safety, if you're going 41 miles per hour on I-75 or I-16, uh, that's probably a problem.

97. 0:39:01

    One other question. Number 12, Representative Taylor.

98. 0:39:04

    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, I appreciate you considering my comments from the last time we met. I, I, I think what I have... What happens with the s- the slow traffic keep to the right module with this bill?

99. 0:39:19

    Well, the slow poke, uh, part of the statute still stays.

100. 0:39:23

     So that means that slow traffic keeping to the right now has to be traveling at a minimum of 50 miles per hour.

101. 0:39:30

     Correct. On interstates and Georgia 400.

102. 0:39:33

     Okay, 'cause that, um, my colleague was kind of bounced back from where I left off, 'cause I still have that concern for young, new drivers and for the seniors that are driving. And so that's the slow traffic to the right stays in force. And on these signs, are we gonna be able to kind of market that more, for lack of better words?

103. 0:39:56

     I would feel confident saying that there will be a marketing campaign by Governor's Office of Highway Safety-

104. 0:40:02

     Okay. Thank you

105. 0:40:02

     ... as well as the rollout of the new signs. And like I said with the effective date, what we're trying to do is, is have plenty of time for, for that effective date to take.

106. 0:40:11

     Great. Thank you.

107. 0:40:12

     To phase that in.

108. 0:40:13

     Thank you.

109. 0:40:14

     Any further questions or what's the will of the committee?

110. 0:40:18

     I'd like to make a motion, Mr. Chairman. To pass.

111. 0:40:20

     State, state your motion.

112. 0:40:21

     Do pass.

113. 0:40:22

     Do we have a second? We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? All in favor say aye.

114. 0:40:27

     Aye.

115. 0:40:28

     All opposed like sign. You have your bill. One other bill, uh, Representative O'Steen.

116. 0:40:33

     Thank you, Chairman and members of the committee

117. 0:40:40

     And, and, and the, the problem with this bill, she presented it so well the other day, we, we did it so fast, we didn't get an effective date on it, so I apologize.

118. 0:40:48

     Are you serious?

119. 0:40:53

     Yes, sir, Representative McClain, you are exactly right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the opportunity to come back today, and let's get this right. I am working ... This is House Bill 1191. It is LC 394871, the exact same bill you saw the other day and passed out unanimously. We just, um, passed through this so quickly that we didn't check the effective date, and Joe came and said we need to work on that. So I'm gonna let Joe just give a comment to that from the Department of Revenue.

120. 0:41:20

     Absolutely. And Chairman, members of the committee, good to see you guys. Uh, so that is generally the rule that we try to apply to new license plates to give our folks time to implement, especially with a plate like this, which will have sort of veteran components. A lot of times they'll get them for free. There's a lot more IT backing that needs to go into that to make sure we're getting it out the right way and that people aren't paying for a plate they're not supposed to. So we really appreciate you working with us, and I'll answer any questions.

121. 0:41:44

     A- a- and I know you're look- if you're looking at the bill, you don't see a date on there. We're, we're gonna have an amendment. Uh, Chairman Smith, I think we'll, we'll, we'll, uh, make the amendment for the effective date, uh, going forward. But we do have a couple questions. Number 19, Representative McClain.

122. 0:41:56

     No, Mr. Chairman, I would just, at the proper time, I was gonna just d- do pass, but, uh ...

123. 0:42:00

     Uh, but th- th- th- that, that ... You'll hold onto that?

124. 0:42:03

     Thank you.

125. 0:42:04

     Chairman Prince.

126. 0:42:05

     Uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, appreciate the bill. No, no worries with this. Uh, however, comma, since we're making, uh, and it's a sort of veteran, sort of a, um, I guess military type tags, uh, is there room to, uh, add a, uh ... 'Cause what was brought to me, and this is something to which, Bill, but not any, really anything, but, uh, adding a handicap, not just for veterans, but for, uh, I think it was talking about state legislators tags.

127. 0:42:44

     If you had a, uh, a tag and you are a, a, are you a handicap,

128. 0:42:51

     adding a-

129. 0:42:52

     Do we have that? Do we have that?

130. 0:42:53

     ... handicap, hand- adding a handicap sticker or whatever, whatever type of design you could come up with to those, for veterans who are handicap a- and/or, uh, service members, uh, even legislators as they, uh, we get older, as, uh, Representative McClain gets older in his day.

131. 0:43:23

     And I know you talk about it a minute. It may be too much, it may be a separate bill, but-

132. 0:43:27

     Let's, let's leave a separate bill on that. Let's, let's try-

133. 0:43:29

     I think it's a great idea to look at, though.

134. 0:43:30

     Yeah, let's just try to keep, keep it-

135. 0:43:31

     I'm happy to take that

136. 0:43:32

     ... this, this pretty. Uh, the, the, the veteran that's here the other day, I, I think for, you know, to keep it clean, clean for him, it'd be, be good. It may be a separate bill in the future.

137. 0:43:41

     Oh, no problem. Oh, you go ahead. Go ahead.

138. 0:43:41

     And, and, uh, number 12. Representative Taylor.

139. 0:43:45

     Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm just curious about how you arrived at the $25 plate fee, fee. Is that something coming from the DOR, Department of Revenue, or, um ... I, and I, I say that only because I think our veterans deserve everything that we can give them-

140. 0:43:58

     Amen

141. 0:43:58

     ... at the least expense possible. So I mean, this is a nominal fee, but can you share how you got to $25, please?

142. 0:44:05

     Sure.

143. 0:44:05

     So I can speak to that. So that is, that is the-

144. 0:44:07

     Thank you

145. 0:44:07

     ... standard plate fee, right? So it is reduced from what would be a specialty tag fee. That's $10 more. So it is the lowest possible cost for a license plate in the state.

146. 0:44:16

     Awesome. Thank you.

147. 0:44:18

     A- and, and the gentleman was here the other day. He didn't have a issue with, with the, having to pay for that, so that's-

148. 0:44:23

     No, not at all

149. 0:44:23

     ... num- number 24.

150. 0:44:26

     Proper time, I'd like to make that amendment.

151. 0:44:27

     Yeah. All r- all r- ... We have a ... First, let me check. Uh, Representative McClain, you make a motion on the bill?

152. 0:44:33

     Yes.

153. 0:44:34

     Uh, we got a motion on the bill. Do we have a second?

154. 0:44:36

     Second.

155. 0:44:37

     All right, we have a motion and a second. Now we have an amendment.

156. 0:44:40

     Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman, um, according to what DOR is saying and working with, uh, M- Miss Angie, I'd like to amend the bill for the date, the effective date would be January 1, 2027.

157. 0:44:53

     I'll second.

158. 0:44:54

     Got it. Okay. We have a motion and second on the amendment. Uh, let's vote on the amendment. All in favor say aye. Aye. All right. Now we're voting on the bill as amended. All in favor say aye. Aye. All right. You have your bill. Thank you.

159. 0:45:06

     Thank you so much.

160. 0:45:07

     All right.

161. 0:45:07

     I appreciate that, though.

162. 0:45:09

     All right.

163. 0:45:09

     We're gonna think about that. Thank you so much.

164. 0:45:11

     Meet- meeting is adjourned.

165. 0:45:12

     Thank you.

166. 0:45:12

     And next Tuesday morning.

167. 0:45:13

     Thank you, Joe.

168. 0:45:14

     No, absolutely. Thank you. We really appreciate it.

169. 0:45:16

     Right.

170. 0:45:24

     Thank you.