Senate Government Oversight Committee, March 24, 2026

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1. 0:19:55

   Okay, we got a quorum now, so we're gonna get this thing rolling. Uh, Senator Albers, you wanna lead us off for, in prayer and get us going with all this tension in the air?

2. 0:20:06

   That'd be my honor and pleasure, Mr. Chairman.

3. 0:20:08

   Number 14.

4. 0:20:09

   Yes, sir.

5. 0:20:10

   Okay.

6. 0:20:10

   Please bow your heads. Lord, as we, uh, come to the final week and a half of this legislative session, we just ask You give us Your humility, Your grace, Your sense of peace. Lord, as we, uh, work through these important, uh, meetings and discussions and vote, we just ask that, uh, you just surround us with Your Holy Spirit, uh, and give us, uh, all Your, uh, Your discernment that we need in order to finish strong and to serve You. For it's in Jesus' name we make our prayer. Amen.

7. 0:20:39

   Amen.

8. 0:20:39

   Thank you, Chairman. We're gonna get started off this morning with Representative Franklin. If you wanna come on up to the front, uh, give us your House bill number and your LLC number, make sure we're all working off the same one.

9. 0:20:51

   Okay.

10. 0:20:54

    Thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the committee. I, I have the, the House bill number is, um, uh, 158. I'm not sure if I have the LLC number that you guys have.

11. 0:21:06

    Do you have 3471S?

12. 0:21:10

    Um, I don't. I don't have it in front of me, but I'm sure that's the correct one, if you wanna go with that one.

13. 0:21:15

    Uh, do you wanna borrow mine, or-

14. 0:21:17

    Yep.

15. 0:21:19

    Senator Albers to the rescue.

16. 0:21:20

    Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.

17. 0:21:23

    Perfect. So m- um, my bill is, is, uh, two different parts on it. The, um, the first part deals with, uh, trade names and, um, doing business as. And this bill came about because currently right now, when you register your company with the State of Georgia, you do it with the Secretary of State, and you can go to that, um, site and f- and that database, and you can look it up. If you, if you register as a doing business as, you have to, um, uh, register it within the, um, the county that you primarily do business in.

18. 0:21:55

    So if you're looking that up, you have to go to, um, all 159 counties to find out if that trade name or that doing business as is functioning within Georgia. So it's not efficient. It's not effective. Um, what the first part of this bill does is allows, um, the, uh, the, uh, counties to be able, or the clerks to be able to put that information, that data, within the Georgia Superior Court Clerk's Corporate Authority. That's a, a mouthful, but it could all go there. So now, if you want to, you can go to the Secretary of State.

19. 0:22:27

    If the bill passes, you can go to the Secretary of State, look up the LLC, and then if you wanna find out if we're doing a business as with a typical name or, uh, a specific name in Georgia, you go to that one, uh, corporate authority, and you can find it there. So it just makes it more efficient, more effective, and, and that's, uh, that's the goal behind that first part of the bill. It doesn't change anything with the monetary effects. There is no, um, extra money from the state that's required. The counties that are still processing, all 158 counties are still getting their $15 when they do process, so nothing changes with their end.

20. 0:23:00

    Um, it has complete support from every, every angle of this, so there's no, uh, uh, there's no downside except for, um, just kind of organizing it and keeping it, uh, more effective and be able to find the, the doing business as. So that's the first part of it, of the bill. The second part, if you look at it, um, talks about, uh, basically warranties, to be able to provide some warranties on, um, electrical, um, or technical appliances, um, within Georgia. So, um, if you, if you purchase an, an item like that now, you, um, you may or may not be able to have a warranty or insurance on that item.

21. 0:23:40

    So if you have a phone or, um, or an...

22. 0:23:46

    Do you see that?

23. 0:23:46

    Yeah, that, that part was pulled out. That was the amendment part?

24. 0:23:49

    Yes. Okay.

25. 0:23:50

    Yeah, that-

26. 0:23:50

    So that's how-

27. 0:23:51

    That, that, yeah, that's why I said your bill was clean.

28. 0:23:52

    Oh, I thought you meant it was clean that we, we-

29. 0:23:53

    No, it, it was clean. That amendment was pulled.

30. 0:23:55

    Oh, good. I don't have to describe that anymore.

31. 0:23:56

    Sorry, folks.

32. 0:23:57

    Yeah.

33. 0:23:57

    Okay, there was a proposed amendment, uh, so that was a little bit of curveball, that was proposed to this bill, and after looking at that amendment, we found that, we ruled that non-germane. So we pulled that, so we're at the original bill. I'm sorry, uh-

34. 0:24:14

    Okay. Yes

35. 0:24:14

    ... Representative Franklin, we was a little bit confused. I was trying to make sure you knew that your bill was clean-

36. 0:24:18

    Uh-

37. 0:24:18

    ... as it was coming in there, so, uh-

38. 0:24:20

    Oh, I'm sorry about that. Yep. Yeah, so great. So that, so that first part is the extent of the bill. And, um, with that, I'll be happy to take any c- any questions.

39. 0:24:30

    Should be less qu- questions now with the amendment part gone. Uh, you do got a couple. Who's on 13? Senator Kirkpatrick.

40. 0:24:38

    Yeah. Thank you. I just want to point out that on subcommittee, in our discussion, uh, you told us that this is an existing database, so it doesn't require creating something new, and this is what the Superior Court clerks wanted to do.

41. 0:24:52

    That's absolutely correct. Yeah.

42. 0:24:56

    Thank you.

43. 0:24:57

    And I forgot, I do wanna say thank you to the subcommittee and, uh, Senator Dickerson for doing that, and you gave me some great notes on this, so appreciate your hard work on this as well. Uh, Representative Howard.

44. 0:25:09

    Thank you, M-

45. 0:25:09

    I'm s- s- Senator Howard, I'm sorry. Had a flashback to my days.

46. 0:25:13

    Oh. Oh, no. It's, it's all good. It's early. Uh, thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh, Representative Franklin, thank you for bringing this bill. It seems to make a lot of sense. Uh, you were walking us through kind of how this helps. Can we go back to that just for a second? I wanna make sure we're clear when I'm explaining this to my constituency. Uh, can you help me out when it comes to, uh, like, the parent company? You know, you got your parent LLC, so to speak, and then you have your doing business as. Oftentimes you'll have that in the county area. So based on this bill, if someone were to search, um, um, the Secretary of State website, would they be able to access that?

47. 0:25:51

    Would there be a hyperlink to not just the parent company, but the Doing business as companies as well, like, like directly to what that, what the, uh, county information would have. You can do that all through one, not one site, but you can, you don't have to change gears or so to speak. You, can you, can you follow the, the, can you track it just clicking through Secretary of State and then go to the next thing? Can you help us through that process?

48. 0:26:18

    Sure. So obviously right now you, you cannot, you know, you, you can't do it. If this bill is passed, you would not be able to go through the Secretary of State and link into, um, nothing changes with what's set up currently right now. So it would be a two-step process if the bill passes. You go to the Secretary of State to look up, and then if you wanted to find out, uh, doing business as, you would go to the, um, the Corporate Authority to look that up. So it'd be a two-step process instead of, uh-

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    Each county

50. 0:26:45

    ... 156. Yeah.

51. 0:26:46

    Got it. So there's-

52. 0:26:46

    Or 160

53. 0:26:47

    ... two areas where this information will live. Um, but you don't have to go county by county to kind of see all the different DBAs.

54. 0:26:55

    That's correct. So for example, in my, in my personal case, um, I have a company called, uh, uh, Budget Auto Sales, and that's the LLC. Um, but I do business as Franklin Toyota.

55. 0:27:05

    Okay.

56. 0:27:06

    And that's registered within, uh, Bulloch County where I do my primary, uh, state of business. So if somebody wanted to find out if there was a Franklin Toyota in Georgia, they couldn't find it from the Secretary of State website. They'd have to go to every single county to find it, and hopefully they land on Bulloch County and, uh, and to find it.

57. 0:27:21

    And for, and for businesses that are, have DBAs and operating slightly differently in different counties, different parts of Georgia, that will all be contained within which, uh, which website or which, uh, organization would be holding that?

58. 0:27:37

    So the, the trade names and the doing business as would be contained within the, uh, Superior Court Clerk's Corporate Authority.

59. 0:27:43

    Okay.

60. 0:27:43

    That website.

61. 0:27:43

    And would there be any communication from Secretary of State website to help guide somebody to the other site, or?

62. 0:27:51

    That would be great. In this bill, it doesn't require that.

63. 0:27:54

    Mm.

64. 0:27:55

    Um, it, it doesn't even suggest it.

65. 0:27:56

    Yeah.

66. 0:27:56

    Um, so to make it as simple as possible, we didn't wanna change the current systems-

67. 0:28:01

    Understood

68. 0:28:01

    ... and the current databases, so we didn't require that from anybody to do it.

69. 0:28:04

    Okay.

70. 0:28:04

    That would be a good idea. The, the, the key thing, the, the, the best thing in my mind would have it just all go to the Secretary of State website.

71. 0:28:10

    Sure.

72. 0:28:10

    So that'd be the best. But we tried that last year. It was, there was some confusion. This is a good compromise-

73. 0:28:15

    Understood

74. 0:28:15

    ... to meet everybody's.

75. 0:28:16

    Thank you so much.

76. 0:28:17

    Mm-hmm.

77. 0:28:19

    Senator Robertson.

78. 0:28:22

    Motion do pass.

79. 0:28:25

    Okay, got a motion and a second. Any...

80. 0:28:32

    All in favor, raise your right hand. We have anyone that'll sign up on this. It's unanimous. So congratulations. Good luck in rules. Uh, who are you gonna have carry this bill?

81. 0:28:42

    Um, I, can I get back with you on that one?

82. 0:28:44

    Yeah, just make sure you get back to Hannah as soon as you can on that.

83. 0:28:47

    Yes, sir. Thank you.

84. 0:28:48

    All right.

85. 0:28:48

    Appreciate it.

86. 0:28:48

    Thank you so much.

87. 0:28:49

    Thank you, committee.

88. 0:28:58

    Representative Carpenter.

89. 0:28:59

    Good morning, everybody.

90. 0:29:00

    Good morning.

91. 0:29:02

    How we doing?

92. 0:29:03

    We're doing wonderful. How are you?

93. 0:29:04

    Doing well.

94. 0:29:06

    Would, uh-

95. 0:29:07

    Could use a nap, but it is what it is. It's that time of year.

96. 0:29:10

    If you go through, give us the LC number, make sure we're all working off the same, uh-

97. 0:29:15

    Yes, sir. You hear me okay?

98. 0:29:16

    I got you.

99. 0:29:17

    All right. Uh, so I've got LC 60-03 55s, House Bill 689. Uh, what s- uh, House Bill 689 seeks to do is create a homelessness prevention program through DCA, through the Housing Trust Fund. What we saw towards the end of September last year was there was a lot of federal money allocated to the state through DCA to issue homelessness prevention grants, uh, throughout the state, and that money dried up last September. So we, we saw that coming last, uh, last session, and unfortunately we couldn't get the legislation through.

100. 0:29:53

     But, um, it was looking to figure out a way to, for the possibility for DCA to continue it, continue this program, um, subject to appropriation so that, uh, we can get out in front of the issue that we, uh, that I think most of you folks know we have in the state of Georgia. Uh, I think the Atlanta Business Chronicle last month issued a statement where Atlanta's got the highest homelessness rate, uh, out of New York, Boston, uh, big, big areas. Um, and I think it's a statewide problem, is we have affordability issues, inflation coming out of COVID, and, uh, there's a lot of folks struggling.

101. 0:30:31

     I'm a man of solutions, so I think doing it on the front side's a lot cheaper than doing it on the back side. Getting people off the streets, three times more expensive than trying to keep them off the streets. Um, obviously the, the need is great, and we don't have endless amounts of money, but I do think, um, allocating some funds to this is important. Uh, this process is already set up in place through DCA. They've already gone through this process, um, with that federal money, so it wouldn't be a, we wouldn't be adding administration as much as just allowing local communities and organizations in those communities to ta- to use state dollars, match it with local dollars, and match it with private dollars to, to grow the dollar amount enough to, you could really make a difference.

102. 0:31:16

     Um, and so that's what this bill seeks to do. Obviously, there's a lot more words than that in there, but that is the, uh, that is the gist of the, uh, of the legislation. I'll be glad to go through it if you want to. I know time, we're, we're, we, we're all about wore out on this, uh, time-wise, but I'll be glad to talk about whatever you wanna talk about.

103. 0:31:34

     We got tons of time. Uh, Senator Albers.

104. 0:31:38

     Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, Representative, uh, thank you for bringing this forward. This is obviously a serious issue that you've already articulated. I mean, we're having this problem right here around these Capitol grounds. I mean, several of our interns in our office have been exposed to and seen, uh, and literally attacked, uh, just in the last two months. Uh, my question is, which I, I support your bill, is how are we gonna measure the effectiveness and hit the targeted areas? Because- I'm looking at it from a perspective, this is our capital.

105. 0:32:08

     Diagonal across the street is City Hall. We're a block away from our capital county as well. And if we can't keep our own house in order, how the heck are we gonna help anybody else?

106. 0:32:16

     Sure. I, yeah, I don't disagree. I know, you know, we put $40 million into the, uh, into DCA to address issues like you're talking about, and I, I just am... I am of the argument that w- those funds on the f- would be much more effective on the front side in solving it before people get evicted because we understand that once they're evicted, um, the, the whole slew of problems that we're dealing with in society, whether it's mental health, whether it's absenteeism at school, whether it's literacy, all the things we're spending all this money on as a state, we could prevent a lot of that if we just invested a little bit on the front side, so.

107. 0:32:52

     I appreciate that. So how are we gonna measure the effectiveness though? Because that's a lot of money, and I see, you know, we sent lots of money in different grants and different programs, you know, and I think as, as legislators, a lot of times we, we appropriate, we pass legislation, and then three, five years later somebody asks to either extend it or do something, and we've not really seen the fruits of that labor. How we, how do we measure this?

108. 0:33:13

     Sure. A- a- and I think that's, that's done at the local level. I think that... So for instance, in, in Dalton and Whitfield County, we have an organization called Dock Up that was put together by the churches because they were all getting hit up by the same people, right? They would hit First Baptist this week. Next week they'd go to First Methodist. And so what they did was they centralized a database to help people for, on rent, utilities, et cetera, so they weren't... it wasn't getting abused, but it was solving the problem. And, and I think for the, for the majority of the time in, in Whitfield County, we've had fairly low homelessness rates.

109. 0:33:47

     Um, obviously that's upticked some, but the reality is I think when you look at the rates, uh, compared to how much they've grown everywhere else, we've been pretty successful. So I think the programs speak for theirselves.

110. 0:34:01

     Thank you.

111. 0:34:01

     Yep.

112. 0:34:06

     Senator Kirkpatrick.

113. 0:34:07

     Yeah. Thank you so much. Um, I understand from the subcommittee meeting that you have personal experience that relates to this, and-

114. 0:34:16

     Oh, yeah

115. 0:34:16

     ... so that's-

116. 0:34:17

     Yeah, we moved, we moved 18 times in my high school career. So, uh, luckily we had family, uh, you know, people in town would, you know, like the old days when people in town, neighbors would help neighbors type situation. But yeah, it's, um, yeah, I, I experienced it. It's a blue collar town and, uh, I'm, I'm probably not the an- anomaly. I'm sure there's more, more than that.

117. 0:34:38

     Follow-up, Mr. Chairman. Um, one thing that I didn't mention in subcommittee that I'll just point out is we are spending state dollars and some other agencies on a closed loop referral system called Unite Us-

118. 0:34:52

     Mm-hmm

119. 0:34:52

     ... which might be very relevant to what we're talking about, that, uh, is a central location for resources and, uh, the Veterans Department is using it, DHS is using it, and it is... it provides follow-up, it provides outcomes. So that might be something to look into pr- but prevention's always measuring a negative and it's difficult.

120. 0:35:16

     Yeah.

121. 0:35:16

     So anyway, thanks for bringing it up.

122. 0:35:17

     Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Yeah, and I, and I have, I have a lot of faith in DCA do, uh, they do a good job in a lot of areas, so I have a, a, a lot of faith in what they do.

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     Mr. Wilk.

124. 0:35:29

     Thank you. Representative Carpenter, I appreciate you bringing this forward. Homelessness has been an issue that we've been focused on for many years, and it seems like we're taking two steps forward and three steps back. But I do think Line 106 to 108 does offer a little bit of a crack in the door of management where, uh, the requirements in the contract of whatever organization we give it to, because we did a study committee a couple of years ago on homelessness and unsheltered or unhoused and whatever the buzzword was at that time, and what we discovered is that the vast majority of the monies that we were pushing over there were being used in the administrative side, and very little was getting out to the problem.

125. 0:36:15

     And of course, I've always ranted against, I feel that the faith community has dropped the ball.

126. 0:36:20

     Yeah, I agree.

127. 0:36:20

     That they've abdicated their responsibilities as I believe their responsibilities are to the government.

128. 0:36:26

     Mm-hmm.

129. 0:36:26

     And therefore, they're coming to us for more tax dollars when I think what your community has done with bringing the faith community together is the right way to do it. But I still think the state plays a role, but I think as we go forward with this, we just need to make sure there's some kind of accounting and auditing of this money that we get over there. And I agree with you, DCA does a good job, but I think we as a general assembly have to do a better job of looking back and making sure that that money's being used for what it is. Because I've had the conversation with Mayor Dickens on several occasions where I don't think the homeless problem in Atlanta is, i- is impossible to solve.

130. 0:37:05

     I think there's too many cooks in the kitchen-

131. 0:37:07

     Mm

132. 0:37:07

     ... who are looking for money, and, um, I don't think we get a, a clear population count by doing it once a year when we do the pick numbers in January. So, um, I think the problem is, I think this is a step in the right direction to getting to where we need to be. We just need to make sure, and as, like I said, I think in 106 and 108, we do have some language there that could help. I just think we need to hold those who are volunteering to help us accountable for where our tax dollars are going, so.

133. 0:37:36

     Yeah. I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I have no problem with that whatsoever.

134. 0:37:40

     Yeah.

135. 0:37:40

     I agree with you.

136. 0:37:40

     And I appreciate your legislation.

137. 0:37:42

     Yeah. And, and, and I would argue there's a certain group of the population that, that just wants to be homeless. Like, I, I, I mean, I, I do believe that, that, that there is a, there is what we see sometimes, and I see it in my community. You know, we've tried some, some things that, a- and people just, they just want, that's just what they want to do. But I do think there's a huge, especially when there's children involved, there's a, um- There's an opportunity here to help, to help the folks, and I think that's what we should seek to do.

138. 0:38:10

     And I agree with you. I think Chairman Bill- Bearden and I can both reflect back throughout our careers where we had the people in town, and to simplify it, you know, everybody had their Otis.

139. 0:38:21

     Mm-hmm.

140. 0:38:22

     Uh, you know, the, the character from Andy Griffith.

141. 0:38:24

     Yes, sir.

142. 0:38:24

     And, and we had actually villages-

143. 0:38:27

     Yeah

144. 0:38:27

     ... and communities set up that the worst thing we could do for them is to take 'em out of there, um, and try to put 'em somewhere else. We would see their mental health and their physical health decline because they actually felt better-

145. 0:38:41

     Mm-hmm

146. 0:38:41

     ... in their own community, and a lot of times those communities were tent cities and, and other things they had established with the landowner's permission. And so, um, you're correct. There are some people out there that, that choose to be out there. There's some out there with untreated mental health conditions that don't know where they are to begin with, and I think that's part of the problem. If we focus on that, make sure that 80 cents of every dollar we put out there is going in the right place, and then that other 20% manage the fund, I think we'll, we could solve this problem.

147. 0:39:14

     But I think our problem is we're upside down. I think 80% of it's going in somebody's pocket, and 20% of it's trickling out to the street.

148. 0:39:21

     Yeah.

149. 0:39:21

     And we have to solve that problem.

150. 0:39:22

     Yeah, and I, and, and that's my, that's actually my feeling on K-12 education as well. For every dollar we spend, 10 cents goes to classrooms, so we can't, you can't move the needle with 10 cents moving it, so.

151. 0:39:31

     And, and, and I think it's education throughout.

152. 0:39:33

     Yeah.

153. 0:39:33

     I agree with you 100%.

154. 0:39:34

     Yeah.

155. 0:39:34

     And I, again, I appreciate this. And, and Mr. Chairman, the time is right.

156. 0:39:38

     We're getting close. Senator Howard.

157. 0:39:43

     Thank you again. I appreciate this bill. Um, I think we can all agree that homelessness and homelessness prevention is extremely nuanced, and if it was easy, it would've been fixed a long time ago.

158. 0:39:55

     Yes.

159. 0:39:55

     And there are, uh, national, international factors that play into it. There's mental health. There's our criminal justice system. There's so many things that are interweaving into this. Uh, and I guess I'll... Usually it's, like, the, the concept of what's the government's role in this thing? And I think we can all agree, and you can let me know, that the government should provide a platform basically to allow opportunity for our churches, our nonprofits, our federal partners matching dollars to live somewhere that won't, uh, disappear if a nonprofit disappears, right?

160. 0:40:28

     Um, the, the State of Georgia should have some things in place to where we can partner with all these things and hold folks accountable. I think we can all agree on that part. Uh, for your bill, it sounds like it's moving in the right direction. To the layperson, how does this fit within the platform that we're trying to s- create and sustain for not just homelessness, but also homelessness prevention?

161. 0:40:53

     Sure. So I, I think the biggest thing you would go back and talk to your constituents about is the opportunity to, to the, to the state to partner with local organizations from a funding mechanism to help stretch the dollars that they're already raising, that the city's already contributing, so that we can get out in front of this on the front side. And so this'd just be the first time in the state that we've ever talked about preventing it and trying to do it on the front side. And so that was, that's the conversation.

162. 0:41:18

     I- if I may, the, there, as we know, there's several organizations that do this, that's been doing this work for a really long time in different pockets of our state, uh, especially here in Georgia. We have issues with city, county collaboration, who's responsible. The people are always fighting over the money. It, it just, I just don't want us talking in circles on, like, we all want the right thing, right? So-

163. 0:41:39

     Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I, I don't think it, I don't think we're really... I, from a state level perspective-

164. 0:41:43

     Yeah

165. 0:41:43

     ... I don't think that we're talking in circles. I think we're just saying we're willing to be participants.

166. 0:41:47

     Okay.

167. 0:41:48

     As long as you're, you know, doing what you say you're trying to do, we're, we're, uh, you know, God willing, we appropriate money for this, we- we're willing to be participants. We want you to do what you're doing, but we understand that the needs are bigger than what you can raise.

168. 0:42:00

     And based on this legislation, as a lawmaker, who would we then specifically kinda go to to track? Like, say this passes, which we hope it does.

169. 0:42:09

     Right.

170. 0:42:09

     Um, who would, who then would we go to to follow up and for accountability purposes?

171. 0:42:13

     So, so I think you would follow the money, right? Like, like most things around here. See where those grants went and, and look at, audit those c- uh, people that receive the grant funds.

172. 0:42:22

     Okay.

173. 0:42:22

     That's where it would go.

174. 0:42:24

     Thank you.

175. 0:42:25

     Senator Harbin.

176. 0:42:26

     Yes, sir. Thank you. Frank Ginn, you're very much needed, um, in this situation is how do we deal with that. I had a couple of questions, uh, if I could. How do we define low-income persons? And I'm, and when I say that, is there a definition or a, a scale that's defined there?

177. 0:42:42

     No, I th- I, I think that those local organizations, um, set up the guidelines and hey, w- what... You know, people come in and they apply. They, they fill out applications, and then those, whoever's running those programs make that decision.

178. 0:42:56

     Okay. And then the, the next one was, the question would be these organizations, how do we or ve- how are they vetted from that standpoint? Is there any kind of vetting process for that?

179. 0:43:07

     Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, it's in the, it's in the legislation for d- how DCA will evaluate 'em.

180. 0:43:10

     Okay.

181. 0:43:10

     And they have to apply and, and all that good stuff, so absolutely. But I, but I have a feeling after this round of federal funding they've already set up those relationships already.

182. 0:43:21

     Any, any way to know where the last dollar, uh, where the percentage of dollars goes? I know some of the, w- you know, you, some of 'em 90% goes, 10%. Is there any measuring stick for those organizations that we're giving money to?

183. 0:43:33

     There, there's not in this legislation. That, uh, DCA obviously would, uh-

184. 0:43:37

     That would be where it is

185. 0:43:37

     ... set up those for 'em and then-

186. 0:43:38

     Okay. I'll be done.

187. 0:43:39

     And if, like anything, if we feel like things are not, we're not getting what we're, what we should be or we're seeing that they're spending too much money, administrations-

188. 0:43:47

     Right

189. 0:43:47

     ... I, I, I, I, I feel certain we can grab DCA by the, by the throat and say, "Hey, this is not what we w- this is not the intention."

190. 0:43:55

     Okay.

191. 0:43:55

     But I, I, I, I don't foresee that being an issue.

192. 0:43:57

     Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it.

193. 0:44:00

     Mr. Wipp, I believe you had a motion you was ready to go with.

194. 0:44:03

     I do, Mr. Chairman. I, I move to do pass.

195. 0:44:05

     Second.

196. 0:44:06

     We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Hearing none, what's the Pleasure Committee f- Uh, we already did that, didn't we? If, uh-

197. 0:44:18

     Uh, coffee is the pleasure of the committee.

198. 0:44:20

     Yes, it is, and we're about to go, go there right now. All those in favor raise your right hand.

199. 0:44:27

     Second, right.

200. 0:44:28

     It is unanimous. Um, thank you so much.

201. 0:44:31

     Thank you.

202. 0:44:31

     Who do you want to carry the bill?

203. 0:44:32

     I have no idea. So if anybody wants some of it, come on. If not, I'll find somebody else.

204. 0:44:38

     S- Senator Dickerson did a great job on that subcommittee.

205. 0:44:40

     He did. Yeah. If he wants it, I'll be glad to give it to you.

206. 0:44:42

     I'm happy with it.

207. 0:44:43

     But thank you. I, I appreciate it.

208. 0:44:44

     Mr. Wipp, I'm not done yet.

209. 0:44:46

     Oh, no.

210. 0:44:49

     Well, I did want to say to the committee, this should be our last committee meeting unless something drastically changes over the next few days. I just want to say thank y'all for your participation. It's been great chairing this committee, and I appreciate every one of you. So, uh, with that, the meeting is adjourned. Thank y'all so much.

211. 0:45:04

     You saying the band?

212. 0:45:06

     Nah, we're coming back together next year